Cyber Crime Treaty & Challenges UPDATE
Cyber Crime Treaty & Challenges UPDATE
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International Convention on Cybercrime Threatens Freedom of Speech and Thought
by Carolyn Meinel
The US Senate Foreign Relations Committee has approved the Cybercrime Treaty. The next step is for the US Senate to vote on it. If it passes the treaty, it becomes the law of the land.
Although there is a good chance that the US Supreme Court would overturn the Cybercrime Treaty, who knows how many hackers could go to prison, in many cases extradited to other countries, before this happens!
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International Convention on Cybercrime Threatens Freedom of Speech and Thought
by Carolyn Meinel
The US Senate Foreign Relations Committee has approved the Cybercrime Treaty. The next step is for the US Senate to vote on it. If it passes the treaty, it becomes the law of the land.
Note that it would outlaw possession of programs or instructions to break into computers if a court determines that you possess them with intent to commit crime. This is dangerous because it criminalizes thoughts that only you know whether you really have.
Although there is a good chance that the US Supreme Court would overturn the Cybercrime Treaty, who knows how many hackers could go to prison, in many cases extradited to other countries, before this happens!
Please feel free to phone me to discuss ideas on how we can be effective in fighting this dangerous treaty. 505-281-9675
More details on problems with the treaty:
The end of today's freedom (or anarchy, depending on one's point of view) to create or possess exploit proof of concept code may now be within sight. Nov. 17, 2003, President George W. Bush submitted the Council of Europe's Convention on Cybercrime to the U.S. Senate. If ratified, this could mean the end of the era of full disclosure of computer exploits. This could mean the end of Happyhacker.org. The end of Zone-h.org. Bye bye, Bugtraq.
The area of concern that is most relevant to computer security researchers is Section I, Article 6 – "Misuse of devices":
- Each Party shall adopt such legislative and other measures as may be necessary to establish as criminal offences under it is domestic law, when committed intentionally and without right: a. the production, sale, procurement for use, import, distribution or otherwise making available of: i. a device, including a computer program, designed or adapted primarily for the purpose of committing any of the offences established in accordance with Article 2 – 5; ii. a computer password, access code, or similar data by which the whole or any part of a computer system is capable of being accessed with intent that it be used for the purpose of committing any of the offences established in Articles 2 - 5; and b. the possession of an item referred to in paragraphs (a)(1) or (2) above, with intent that it be used for the purpose of committing any of the offences established in Articles 2 – 5. A Party may require by law that a number of such items be possessed before criminal liability attaches.
- This article shall not be interpreted as imposing criminal liability where the production, sale, procurement for use, import, distribution or otherwise making available or possession referred to in paragraph 1 of this Article is not for the purpose of committing an offence established in accordance with articles 2 through 5 of this Convention, such as for the authorised testing or protection of a computer system.
- Each Party may reserve the right not to apply paragraph 1 of this Article, provided that the reservation does not concern the sale, distribution or otherwise making available of the items referred to in paragraph 1 (a) (2). (Click here for details)
What You Can Do
You can learn more about problems with this treaty at this web site:
<a href='http://www.treatywatch.org'>treatywatch
To keep up on news of the treaty and what you can do to fight it, please sign p on our email list on the right hand menu bar. Also, there is a discussion forum on the treaty at http://www.rootexploit.net.
It's also a great place to find the latest, greatest proof on concept codes that would be outlawed under the treaty.
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ghost 18 years ago
If it passes it just means people have to take more care of what they are doing! They cant stop us all.
ghost 18 years ago
i hope that wolfmankurd is right. but i am sure that omnipresence is. if it does go through though then i am sure that there will be a lot less s'kiddys (cause the can't use programs that other people made) but still. if the senitors do pass it… it would suck… alot.:(
n3w7yp3 18 years ago
well it wont make a difference. the exploits will still be there, but they wont be announced. all that will happen is people will discover it and keep it to themselves, or they wil ltrade it like it is warez. i really hope that this bill does not pass, as in the long run it will only end up hurting the Internet, as crackers will have the exploits, and vendors will not be aware of them…. oh well, maybe after a few government sites get rooted (with exploits that previously would have been found and ethically disclosed), they'll figure it out. or then again, maybe not…. :|
ghost 18 years ago
wow… that is the dumbest treaty ever.. and if it's passed… people will still find ways to trade around those secrets… and if they don't, they'll use them for themselves.
ghost 18 years ago
I doubt any difference will happen. Look at all the issues like this from the past. Look at warez, p2p, all that good stuff. Outlawed or not, it's just way too big of an audience to stop.
Instead, what you'll see is either mock arrests or minor arrests that are shown as major ones. They'll do this to discourage everybody. Just like with p2p. They track down only a few and make it a HUGE ISSUE to scare any current offenders.
Things like this will always happen and all that it cause more underground communities (which we, as hackers, don't find very hard to discover).
Plus, I've been looking at the "updates" of this treaty and they're all very outdated. 2003? It's nearly 2006 and that's some of the latest news? This must be either a) discarded or b) undergoing heavy amendments.
There are more current battles for digital rights.