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2 cpus on board


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hi, i'm not too experience in computer hardware and i want to ask is it possible to have 2 cpus on board Foxconn 865A01-PE-6LS


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The only way you can put 2 CPUs on a board is if there are two slots on the board.


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i don't think there is 2 slots, maybe under cooler, but i don't think so….but windows xp and linux(gentoo) found there 2 cpus (2 Intel P4 2.4 GHz), how is it possible?


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A dual-core processor shows up as 2 CPUs… just as a quad-core processor will show up as 4 CPUs. All a CPU is is a large block with pins that contains a tiny core in the middle of the CPU. Each core is 1 CPU to an OS.

<OT>Glad you're using Gentoo… it's a great distro to learn with.</OT>


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i don't think there is dual core, because i don't think Intel Pentium 4 can be dual core or am i wrong?


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If it's a "Pentium D", it has two cores… the "D" is short for "dual". To clarify, a Pentium D is a Pentium 4 with 2 cores.


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ok i'm not too expreienced in computers i'm just learning i send there dmesg from gentoo, and if can please look at it and tell me what is it, if it is 2 cpus, or dual core or something else http://uploaded.to/?id=oqofjo thanks


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I'm not downloading that. Just Google the line in your dmesg that you're concerned with the meaning of… others that have seen the same will make mention of the CPU.


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I looked at your dmesg for fun. First off that Foxconn mobo you have is an old Socket 478, You probably have a 478 Intel Core 2 Duo. Which is why is shows up as 2 cpu's. If you want to see a real mobo that can take 2 cpu's, Look at the Asus L1n64-sli ws for the AMD Fx-74's. I have that set-up on one of my boxes.


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Do you have a p4 with Hyper-Threading (HT)? That will show up as 2 in task man. and the like.


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A hyperthreaded CPU is only running a single core… there's no reason why it should show up as more than one.


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yea i know they are. but don't they show up as 2 logical cores or something? i swear my xp task manager would show 2 under performance and that some utilities would show 2. i don't know if that means anything with linux tho. i still bet it has hyper threading. :)


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No.


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no what? my money is still on the hyperthreading. have you ever used it? that/this is how it behaves. i'd like to hear from the OP if he can figure it out. cat /proc/cpuinfo and look for the flag ht. this is my answer unless i can be proven wrong(or its a P4D). :p

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=2

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-htl/

http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/23/linux-tips-how-to-find-out-if-a-your-cpu-supports-ht-hyper-threading/

"If you still see only one CPU even after you have installed a HT enabled kernel, then you might want to check:

* HT is not disabled in BIOS.
* APCI is enabled in BIOS.    &quot;

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I have used it and I understand how it works. I just never went looking for the number of CPUs that I had BECAUSE I know how it works. Apparently, this is a case where I can't just expect software to treat the hardware as it actually is. Thank you for doing the research and standing by your statement.


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Hyperthreading will show up as 2 cpu's if it is enabled but the OP's question was can he have "2" cpu's on that mobo. That was already answered.


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from dmesg CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz stepping 09

CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU1: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz stepping 09

Total of 2 processors activated (9587.01 BogoMIPS).

Dual Core shows up as Dual Core in dmesg, this is indeed a Pentium 4 with HyperThreading.

HT indeed shows up as two processors and i don't think Intel had in mind that they were supposed to release a Physical Dual Core so they made it simple for themself instead. Them lazy bastards! :happy:


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'nuff said I believe.

OP's question was answered long time ago.


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ok so if it is Intel P4 with HT, in make.conf it will be MAKE_OPTS="-j2" or MAKE_OPTS="-j3" i know that evrey processors/cores adds 1, but what with HT? it have to be -j2 or -j3? thanks


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As a general rule, setting MAKE_OPTS for a number of cores less than what you actually have is a safe bet and will not hurt anything; it just wouldn't be taking advantage of the processor's full potential. That's just a note for anyone who is concerned about getting failsafe functionality before "testing".

Apparently, HT CPUs are treated as having 2 cores in that respect, too… so, go with the "-j3". Supporting link: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2237665.html?sid=a4a657ca967b5bcc3704bd671118f7aa