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Hey, does anyone know any good sites for learning vb? Thanks. :happy: [edit]and yes i have tried google…its jsut i need a really good one but i cant seem to find any :([/edit]


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If I were you I wouldn't bother learning VB, it's quite a gay language, learn C++ or PHP :p


ghost's Avatar
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Sigh VB sigh. Well, to each his own, but I have to agree with system, you'd be better off sticking with C, C++, or php. VB = Not a programmers language.


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SsAgEnT wrote: i agree with system_meltdown learn some "true" languages like c/c++ @system_meltdown but with VB i can put a little trojan in a Word document, or another malicious code :D

Isn't it ironic that Microsoft's own creation is the cause of it's downfall?

(That's a quote from my presentation on the evolution of Microsoft that I wrote for my English class last year)


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The Localhost Hacker
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Thanks guys for replying

  1. As ac1d said im onyl learning it for a school competition
  2. @s_m : rofl :happy:

ghost's Avatar
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Isn't it ironic that Microsoft's own creation is the cause of it's downfall?

heh tru.dat


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I also agree that learning a language like C or PHP is better than VB..

BUT, if you want to write a simple program quick and easy, VB is sometimes a timesaver (I say sometimes ;) )


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Lot of people don't like VB because it is easy. I agree that C/C++ is much better. It is my fault that I am too lazy to learn new language (C++).

But I have to do my best and start with C/C++.

Anyway, if you need help with VB, you can ask me. I will try to help you.


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You also get taught VB for AS/A Level studies in United Kingdom for the 'Computing' course.

Something which I'm doing.

Also, if your VB code is to a higher standard than your peers, you do Java.

Something which I'm also doing.

(High standard == RFA, Read&Write .dat files ROFL)


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I can say that I can make pretty good stuff in VB. I am proud of it.

Also, is there any popular trojan made in C++ ?

I don't know. But I know that most popular trojans are made in VB.


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kaksii i dont know where u get your info dude… thats just plain stupid. Tell me, which computer language is most used today and why.


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Yea, if you think about it. What languages are the most protable? Probably C and C++ (I know, it's debatable). So I think that those two are way better than VB. You couldn't write a linux virus in VB, but you can in C :p. And I don't think you could write an operating system in VB either XD. If i'm wrong on anything, correct, I kinda whipped this up a bit fast.


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no you can't make an OS in VB. its made for small windows business applications and built upon microsoft platform. Its def not portable.

C/C++ is made to develop enterprise applications. Unix/Linux is based on C. Hence C/C++ can be used to make an OS.

Java, VB, asp.net, languages like that are very high level languages that are mainly just for small applications and ya viruses and trojans can be made in them. Trojans can also be done in c/c++ and thus c/c++ can be used to make anything yet is probably one the most widely used programming languages.

assembly is also used alot for virii.. its the most low level and can control basically anything you want in memory. Also these high level languages when they get compiled, say for example c++, it first gets converted to assembly and then assembly gets converted to machine code 1's and 0's. So assembly programs are very fast and very small, and good for viruses.

But in the real world today, most companies make their business software in the .net framework because its fast and visual and provides alot of support and easier to use.


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VB isn't bad at all to learn. I wonder why you all against it. Actually vb is a good language to start codding with. It's easy to learn and it's easy to do programm with. After when you want to do better thing that run faster you can go for C. If I had started to learn C in first I wouldn't be here to talk about it. Sometime you need to start with something simple than go with something more complex. The better example of that is if you propose to someone than never program to learn ASM, because you can write the fastest programm with that. The personn will never manage to get throw that, even for people who are programming for few years ASM is a pain to learn. So the same can goes for C. I think you should put your ego away and admit that when you started programming, you started with easy language like VB. For myself, I started to learn programming with HTML and Javascript.


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Well actually I was just basically stating what the languages are good for and what they can be used for.

Your right VB is good for beginners to learn and good for making small windows applications but not very practical for enterprise level software and OS creation.

But then again VB is pretty gay lol… personally I started learning C first and then C++ until I mastered both. Now I can pick up any language very easily. You can't do that with VB.. so I suggest starting with C.

Also VB has alot of useless extra code, for example dim variable as integer; // in VB int variable; // in C

just declaring a variable in VB is stupid…


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It isn't stupid at all. Everything in VB was created so that it could be easy to transpose any algorythm. It's easier for a beginner to remmember Dim x As Integer than int x. Why ? You just can learn it this way : Declaration of the variable (Dim) x (variable name) as a number (type), instead of learning it in a way not everyone can understand. Don't start to believe eveything is design stupidly, there is always a reason for everything. Also if your good enough to understand C go ahead learn it, the only thing I want to said his not everyone can learn it easily and people should stop telling people to learn C/C++/C#. For some people it's better to start by learning language like VB and most of the people who ask what language they should learn have no idea what is programming, so they better start with something not too complex to see if it's something they could like.


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Yes, you're right arto, I just don't really like it, probably mostly because I started programming C. I guess for some people, starting with a language like VB is good, but personally I really do not like it.


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I think the more languages you know or have had experience with the better, so even if you know c/c++ you should have a look at vb, you never know. VB is awesome for knocking up quick apps that (even with gui) that run rather complex algo's.


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sirus69 wrote: assembly is also used alot for virii.. its the most low level and can control basically anything you want in memory. Also these high level languages when they get compiled, say for example c++, it first gets converted to assembly and then assembly gets converted to machine code 1's and 0's. So assembly programs are very fast and very small, and good for viruses. Assembly and machine code are the same.(one is human readable other is machine readable)

But in the real world today, most companies make their business software in the .net framework because its fast and visual and provides alot of support and easier to use. Lol visual… nah microsoft is crap. Im GNU and ONLY GNU.(emacs + cygwin) Oh, btw i found an interesting quote:

Since Intel has a love-hate relationship with Microsoft, it has to make sure that its latest processor is fully supported. The way to do that is to produce a a superb compiler that plugs into the Visual C++ environment and compiles all Visual C++ programs, only better.

Arto_8000 wrote: VB isn't bad at all to learn. I wonder why you all against it. Actually vb is a good language to start codding with. It's easy to learn and it's easy to do programm with. I found C++ to be easier to understand than VB(ye i tried VB but i trashed it). Maybe its because c++ is more robust and thats what i like.

sirus69 wrote: Your right VB is good for beginners to learn and good for making small windows applications but not very practical for enterprise level software and OS creation.

Nah… all applications are time critical.

P.S. Im gonna try to make a simple program today in D(its a new programming language, it has syntax similar to c++ and its performace is similar too)


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assembly and machine code are not the same. Assembly needs to still be converted to 1's and 0's what are u talking about