Cracking... (Languages?)

Well, I have been reading some cracking tutorials here and there, and noticed (somewhere) that it said "in order to be a pro cracker you must know Perl… every good cracker has used Perl in one way or another, especially to make keygens and such".. Well I was wondering if that was true. I know a bit of C++, and I was also wondering if that would be enough to get me started with making keygens (for educational purpose of course!) and other stuff like that! — thank you.. I guess

You know what would be a helpful language when cracking apps?

Assembly.

hellboundhackersok wrote: "in order to be a pro cracker you must know Perl… every good cracker has used Perl in one way or another, especially to make keygens and such"..

That's a load of shit.

You can code a keygen in any language you want to (though the lower-level, the better, especially for replicating the exact check routine in a higher abstraction).

From -which- article exactly did you take the Perl part? I DEMAND A WARNING.

Perl has It's upsides <exploits> but I've never used it to code a keygen. Did you see this on youtube.

No I don't go to youtube for cracking tuts, lol people go to youtube to be retarded and pretend to know crap… I saw it on.. uhh?

http://www.woodmann.com/crackz/ but I think it's down now or I may have seen it on: http://tsehp.cjb.net/ or: http://forum.exetools.com/ Or http://greythorne.cjb.net/

All I know is that GreyThorne, Fravia, and +ORC were the BEST crackers… lol :D

EDIT: oh yeah Zephyr.. I know I need to know assembly rofl… thats why Im (albeit trying) to read Art Of Assembly

Yes yes, Perl is very useful to learn, and will give you much experience; But… Keygens….?

hellboundhackersok wrote: All I know is that GreyThorne, Fravia, and +ORC were the BEST crackers… lol :D

Back in the day they were, unfortunately, most of them are very old/retired from their original interests today.

Some more modern tutorials:

www.reversing.be
www.tuts4you.com

Thannk you for the URLS, and yeah mido, lol, whats wrong with keygens?

Lol, nothing wrong.

I have just never heard of keygens with Perl, maybe I'm wrong.

But they're widely coded in ASM/C/C++…

Oo ok then lol… My plan (if anyone cares) (probably not) 10Learn ASM 20Crack Stuff 30Create keygens with C++ 40do nothing. 50go to HBH 60goto 20

Lol. My plan:

10get pro

hellboundhackersok wrote: Oo ok then lol… My plan (if anyone cares) (probably not) 10Learn ASM 20Crack Stuff 30Create keygens with C++ 40do nothing. 50go to HBH 60goto 20

There are a ton of numbers between 10 and 20. The jump isn't that small, believe me. Just take a look at any well known commercial application.

You'll have public and private packers, obfuscation, ridiculous known and unknown encryption algorithms, check routines that go on for ages, anti-debugging.

It's a long road, my friend. I reccomend playing with little (<1mb) shareware apps, at first.

The registration techniques you see there are generally easier, and can typically be solved by quicker fixes then keygenning (patches, disabling nags, disabling time restrictions, etc).

ok.. but what are some good tools to use

i have W32Dasm, OllyDbg, HxD Hex editor, and ResHacker – is that all I need?

You need candle-light, a castle and a good book. Take your time.

Tools are part of the process, not the initial process-starters.

hellboundhackersok wrote: W32Dasm, OllyDbg, HxD Hex editor, and ResHacker – is that all I need?

All of those are fine. You'll also like PEid, for initial analysis and other handy utilities, and ImpRec, for unpacking.

Olly is your primary tool, use the deadlisting in W32Dasm when Olly's analysis yields garbage.

You don't really NEED a hex editor/resource editor, they just make aesthetic changes a little easier.

Thx for the tool, I'm downloading it now :) EDIT: also thx for help and telling me what I gotta do… and what I have to do is.. stuff