New Earth-like planet

Hey I was working on some work for a website that had to deal with RSS feeds, and I came across this from Google.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21622354-5006301,00.html

pretty much the article is about a new earth like "exoplanet" that is like 20 light years away and in another galaxy, which is remarkably similar to Earth. Scientists said that the temperatures are probably not too much different from Earth's and that there is liquid water. Which brings up that there is a good chance of their being life there.

So now the question is how do we get there if it takes 20+ light years lol

Pretty interesting find, and curious to know what you guys think about it.

i was reading about this, too. i always thought there was some other form of life out there (i dont mean those green guys that come around and probe you), but some other planet with life.

I say by the time we fuck up the earth for good, we will have a way to get there so it is a good find. Even if we figure out how to move as fast as light it will still take 20 years to get there, so I think I will leave that problem to the scientists. Too much work for me.

bigggnick wrote: i was reading about this, too. i always thought there was some other form of life out there (i dont mean those green guys that come around and probe you), but some other planet with life.

Lol, same, but all we have to do is master space travel, make some sort of hyperdrive and get 20 light years in 20 mins and were there…quite simple if you think about it :p

well they say it is smooth meaning its either solid rock or purely covered by oceans with no continents (water is likelier to contain life than continents do since in the air you can have toxic gases but water is purer) and also there could be water-based inteligent life (mermaids lol)

heh theres only the slight problem that at that speed anything would disintegrate ^^.

meh, wish it was closer, itd be cool to find other life, even bacteria.

Folk Theory wrote: well they say it is smooth meaning its either solid rock or purely covered by oceans with no continents (water is likelier to contain life than continents do since in the air you can have toxic gases but water is purer) and also there could be water-based inteligent life (mermaids lol)

Lol but they did also say that it had water + land so now were all happy :happy:

mr noob heh theres only the slight problem that at that speed anything would disintegrate ^^.

How do you know…have you ever traveled at light speed? And if we do then nothing impossible ^^

Why are they spending their time looking for planets the we can't even get to?

Why not create an engine capable of getting us somewhere, then find a somewhere to go to.

Or like in that film Lost in space we can make hyper gates…are they more realistic for you :p

heh those films are so cheesy its hard to take an idea from them seriously ^^

if you went into a hypergate where would you be before you came out the other side? O.o

Lol, but if actually remember the film they didnt go in the hypergate coz somehow the sun caught the ship in its gravitational pull…from the earth O.o so they had to use a hyperdriver in which they go through the sun…O.o then arrive about 100 years into the future O.o then end up on some ice planet O.o with this monkey dude (he rocks :p) O.o then meet themselves about another 20years into the future O.o go into the past O.o stop themselves going and crashing into an asteroid O.o then drive off into random deep space O.o :whoa:…….Who else is confused :right:

my mind turned off after the monkey bit… teehee monkey :ninja:

First of all there are no "gaxlaxies" which are 20 light years away. The nearest star is 4 light years away and our galaxy is over 100 light years across.

Secondly a light year is the distance light travels in one year, therefore travelling 20 light years in 20 minutes would imply speeds faster than the speed of light, which is impossible (except for certain types of virtual photons and fundamental particles). The only way to do that would be use of space bending which would pull the space closer (the technology isn't here yet)

Also, if you travel at the speed of light time dilates and therefore time for the mover slows down so at the speed of light, time for you will stop.

NOTHINGS IMPOSSIBLE!!!! :p

Btw mozzer i like your science knowledge :p

i agree with mozzer, seen as ive done a short course in quantum mechanics :)

unless they found a way to dissasemble atoms into quarks and transport them faster than light to the destination, then reassemble them, not likely though ^^

WTF is wrong with you people…NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!

I actually think this will turn out like the religion thread, big fights start then the flash locks it :p

lol nah :) were just brainstorming theories :P

Ok :happy: Well what if we could actually gather light particles and stroe them in the engine and use them as a propellant and harness the speed of light xD

yeah, and if I remember right according to the theory of relativity if anything with mass went the speed of light, it would have infiinite mass…meaning it's impossible to go at the speed of light. there's some interesting ideas here though: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/ideachev.html

E=MC² And for less brainy of you :p energy = mass * the speed of light squared the more mass you have the more energy you have so the faster you can move

If it ends up like the religion thread, this time I will have others on my side.

:ninja::D:ninja:

i always thought it was the faster you went the more energy it took to go faster… that would mean to go the speed of light would take infinite energy…or something that would constantly replenish… but most of these laws had to be rewritten because they didnt work with celestial bodies or subatomic particles

I dont see why everyone thinks the speed of light is the top speed anything can go…its only the fastest thing…it dosent make it the only fastest thing does it?

[edit] also your gonna be going through space and coz theres nothing in space theres no friction holding you back so no you wouldnt need infinate energy :happy:

Anyone else read the article about those scientists who made light go faster than the normal speed of light?

Maybe they could work on using something like that

i haven't read it, but it seams plausible.

the thing is, time moves at the speed of light so when you travel at the speed of light time wont move relative to you so youll be frozen in time which is not good.

but there is a solution: bending the fourth dimension would make you go from one place in space to another (through the bent fourth dimension) in just a moment (like a 'pop youre there' thing)

imagine it like an ant in a newspaper (2d) that is bent (on the third dimension) allowing her to pass to another part of the page instantaniously. (this experiment is safe to reproduce in your house, but warning you might confuse the hell out of the ant.)

TheNewFlea wrote: i haven't read it, but it seams plausible.

i think it would be better to make light go SLOWER so we can go faster than it without disintegrating and thus research lightspeed travel….

they have made light go slower to the closer it gets to 0 kelvin the slower the light moves

True, but thats only if time actualy exists…how do we know? If time exists then time travel is as possible as me walking through my bedroom door…if it dosent…were jsut here speeding though space spinning on our axis at about 900 miles per hour and going round the sun at about 67000 miles per hour and spinning around the milky way at about a 10 million miles a hour and zooming through space with no beggining or end …mkes you quesy dosent it :p

nah i kinna like the feel of the gyro-effect hehe ^_^ good thoughts on the time thing though ive never thought of anything like that.. where did you get it?

I have read all of the above very quickly and I must assume that very few of you actually have a grasp of the physics involved here.

No1. Making fundamental particles travel at the speed of light is one thing. There have no mass and therefore are not being slowed down by a near infinite mass like massive objects do when the travel near the speed of light

No2. The second dimension is time and we can't "bend" it just like that

Sorry to burst you bubbles, read up on the science first

Well geez this thread took off lol. Anyways, back to what I had said in the opening thread, I made a mistake which Mozzer pointed out. I had misread the article. Its not in our solar system (planets that orbit the sun), but its in our galaxy. Now as to whoever just posted about getting closer to 0 Kelvin (aka absolute zero), besides all atoms, does light stop completely as well? Or no because its energy and not matter meaning that absolute zero doesn't make it stop because their are not atoms in light to make it stop.

Also, more about the fourth dimension. Whoever gave that one analogy with the newspaper was a good example. Think of the 4th dimension as a diagonal dimension from a 3-D cube. So the cube could be a certain part of space, and we go through the 4th dimension (the diagonal) which connects us to another 3-D cube. Now how we would do this I have no idea, but its a theory. Also another thing that I have heard, is that instead of us moving at light speed, we move the universe. Again, not sure how they have thought of doing that, but its a thought that has come up in scientists theories before.

@johnjuan: i thought it up myself…sometimes when i cant sleep i write donw theorys into why/where/when sorta questions about the universe :p

[edit] about absolute zero, i thought it was when there is NO heat at all, which is impossible coz all atoms produce energy and one form of energy it gives off is heat

i dont think we can actually reach 0 kelvin but yea that would be absolute zero… nothing moves or does anything at all

@jagged cool neat little concept you should make up some rules for it and send em to me… see if we can convince a few people with it hehe

johnjuan728 wrote: i dont think we can actually reach 0 kelvin but yea that would be absolute zero… nothing moves or does anything at all

We have gotten within decimals of it but at the moment we are not able to on Earth.

chislam wrote: [quote]johnjuan728 wrote: i dont think we can actually reach 0 kelvin but yea that would be absolute zero… nothing moves or does anything at all

We have gotten within decimals of it but at the moment we are not able to on Earth.

But as i said every atom creates heat so it would only be possible somewhere millions of miles away from even one atom…its crazy but true

well its like most other things in science… we can get really really really close but we can never get it quite right.

I havent rly read all of ur posts,but as much as i know astrophysics i know tht it is plausible to make something travel the speed of light,but a human organism can not!!!!!!!!!!! our matter would survive(logic),but our organism would die! And off course there is a planet like ours,there is millions of tht type,but we can just forget it,the closest galaxy to ours is Andromeda!(55 milliards light yrs away)

i knew that… its got something to with g forces doesnt it?? our body couldnt take it though we'd be converted into energy before we got up to that speed

Maybe we could all save up our change and take a bus there.

maybe but i dont think i could stand to be on a bus for that long with very many people

I think our bodys can only take up to 9 Gs i think (correct me if im wrong) but you dont feel G-forces in space so we dont really need to worry about that

hmmm… maybe we're being too logical here… lets go to jaggeds idea and he and i will make up a way to do all of this with no effort

I await your results.

i will deliver them as we make them up… may take a while though jagged just went to bed

Well i couldnt get to sleep so i came back on and i think i'll try thinking some more theorys up :happy:

that was a bit quick for an attempt jagged hehe… what else have you got… i can rewrite gravity hehe

Lol, well i get bored easly :p Also be on MSN tomorrow coz i'll tell you there (i think you added me, i cant remember :$) and i dont think they appresiate us doing a load of offtopic posts on this thread :p

maybe true but this is an offtopic thread and they may be enjoying it .. hehe aight ill be on tomorrow

I always enjoy it…

If that counts for anything

yay see jagged between me you Der Heiligen and 8-bit we manage to entertain the people

Wow.. I'm The People… Who knew?

well at the moment your at least the VOICE of the people hehe

Wow… I'm the Voice of the People… Who knew?

johnjuan728 wrote: yay see jagged between me you Der Heiligen and 8-bit we manage to entertain the people

Lol, maybe we should make a new group…HellBoundEntertainers xD

hmm.. or something like the illogicals hehe cuz we never follow anything logical… its easier our way

I like that idea… you will have to let me join. :D

haha, yeah

And i thought of something :happy: What if our suns are like atoms (the proton and neutron part) and the planets are the electrons flying around it and were part of some even bigger universe and all the atoms that WE have actually have little suns and solar systems…maybe life? :p

wow crazy sounds like you just watched men in black and @thenewflea yea i guess we could let you in… check my blogs (myspace blech) every now and then… ill start posting my ideas in them as well

i aint seen men in black for years, why you mention it?

because in the movie at the end it shows the universe as a marble for bigger "aliens" to play with

Hmm i dont remember that bit…maybe i was thinking of it subconsiously :p

:o maybe the universe is part gods subconsiousness thats why we can never proove him and why god SEEMS to do nothing to help us :p

nah dont get me started on that debate again you saw what i did to 8-bit hehe…

haha, well im gonna try get some more sleep, speek to you tomorrow ;)

aight sees ya jagged 1337 dreams hehe

Well anyway that aws an interesting thread but of course my theory is. If there is another life form out there i would rather not discover it because if there is another person like George Bush out there then im gunna do everything to stop George v2 gettin over here.