psi / chi .. anyone?
Is anyone here familer with "psi", sometimes reffered to as chi, although chi is slightly different.
PSI, as in, telekenisis / telepathy / empathy / ESP etc
i use to be quite heavily into it, moving psi wheels, creating psi balls and successfully experimenting with telepathy.
however, having not meditated or practiced any of these skills in months, im getting really really rusty. (except for my empathy though)
there use to be a website i use to visit but i forgot the url and cant find it on google. oh well.
i remember a thread on HTS once asking the same thing and it seemed quite popular with loads of people actually doing it. so was woundering if anyone here is familier with psi, or perhaps even practices it themselves?
sounds like a very intersting subject.. y would also love to see /heaer more on this subject…where to learn to meditaet.. i mean realy learn?… i realy wanna know .. and i wana know some good sites on the matter…
i think meditation realy helpes .. ( and i always was atracted to oriental techniques and/or paranormal stuph… ) can't w8 to hear replys
heres a pretty good site to learn from. hope this helps
glad to see others into it.
i havnt done it properly for nearly 4 months now, and havnt even meditated once within that time :|
now i can barely move a psi wheel. but if/when i get back into the swing of it, it will be ok.
i've had some very intersting experiances with empathy which at the moment is by far my best psi ability. knowing who is phoning you, whilst your phone is ringing is another funny thing i seem to be able to do well.
never been able to do out of body projection thingy. think i concentrate too much.
anyone got any intersting stories they can share? i have a few intersting empathy stories, but if anyone is that interested i'll share over PM, but they too personal for forums.
anyone got any tips on psi wheels / telepathy etc?
HOLY CRAP! For like 6-7 years I was into it hardcore, I lived amd breathed chi (no pun intended for the 'Chi Breathing' exercise/meditation.) I can't believe anyone other than me does this. I have kindof drifted away from being a hardcore guy, but I still meditate and practice exercises when I have time. I'ml still supriosed that people other than me were into it, (esp Mr_Cheese) because you guys have kinda grown in my mind as the logical side of my psyche (as in I rely on you to keep me here and do logical things like hacking,) and the other stuff is based on faith…
Also, don't be too down about the astral projection thing, it is wierd as hell, and I feel really wierd while it happens (or more when your in the transition of it happining.) You honestly aren't missing too much that can't be made up for in Lucid Dreaming (very easy with practice) and Remote Viewing.
Kinda cool to have others working on it though, NC
When i ever i have lucid dreams i have lots of sex!! Well I dont really practice any of this stuff but often i know what will happen before it happens!From dreams and stuff,When i was a child i apparantly freaked people out (family) from saying things and predicting and what not…. I allways like to think I am a very oppen person to this type of thing and therefore experience varios paranormal things at sometime or another.
When i ever i have lucid dreams i have lots of sex!! Well I dont really practice any of this stuff but often i know what will happen before it happens!From dreams and stuff,When i was a child i apparantly freaked people out (family) from saying things and predicting and what not…. I allways like to think I am a very oppen person to this type of thing and therefore experience varios paranormal things at sometime or another.
Actually i used to dabble in this as well. For those of you who seem shocked that other people did it too, ask about 20 of your friends in school and you'll probably find someone else who was into it as well. It is quite popular for interest to start at age 12 and to die out by age 15. Me, i dabble in it here and there. I wish i could asteral project but I rarely have enough damn privacy to try it. I've had a few experiences and what not, but nothing big.
This seems to be a good topic for irc onetime. hurah for irc psi party.
Mr_Cheese wrote:
now i can barely move a psi wheel.
whilst your phone is ringing is another funny thing
never been able to do out of body projection thingy
anyone got any intersting stories they can share? i have a few intersting empathy stories, but if anyone is that interested i'll share over PM, but they too personal for forums.
fist of all what is a psi wheel?
what does whilst mean ? (yeah dumb question on my behalf)
the best story i can tell ya is that i read somewhere that when you visualize something you should look at your hands because these are the most familiar things to you.. you see them every day.. so one day i was lying ( the position you are sleeping in :P ) adn i closed my eyes and i started to concentrate…. black .. a line .. .. some more lines.. and i began to imagine the form of my hand.. i saw it like a wire ..adn after that i saw it realy well .. very realistic… and then suddenly i saw the whole room .. i was on my feet in teh midle of the room… strange…. i saw my brother at the computer.. and i saw .. ME in a sleeplike position on the bed.. damn… and i started to look in te miror,,,, and i saw myself… adamn again….. anf i looked so closely in teh mirror that i scared myself adn i opened my eyes,,, and i was in the other side of the mirror.. ( and my brother said i was asleep ) but i saw him what he was typing at teh computer….( for real) thats my onetime only experience (kinda out of body)
mr_cheese pelase send me soem Pm w/ storyes .. i realy am interested…
Neo_Chalchus teh only way i had lucid dreaming was after i read some book by carlos castaneda ( strange thing but i loved them) and i managed a few times to realize that i was dreaming.. strange thing.. i was thinking in my dreams .. : if he/she doesent know the answer to thsi next question then im dreaming.. but when i realise im dreaming i usualy spoil; the dream … i would realy ove for you to sen me soem pm w/ books /stupf about "Lucid Dreaming (very easy with practice) and Remote Viewing"
im realy into it :D.. also i wanna lear as much as i can about these things… al pm are wellcomed… thanks in advance…. if you like look at my profile and add me to ypour mns / send me emays :) cheers
~overlord
edit: maybe we are into it because nature tends to balance itself… and to much erality/logic is balanced by these experieces?… just my 2 cents.. adn yeah i think that nature is the key.. and it can heal itself by trying to balance itself …. :D
a "psi wheel" is the most common training "prop" for telekenisis and generally keeping that section of the mind active.
its basically a piece of paper (its weight depends on your ability), and its folded faintly just enough so it can balance on the head of a pin.
you then put that pin into a rubber or a cork etc.
then once its setup the aim is to get the piece of paper to spin, using only your mind.
i'll PM some people a couple stories tommorow, as it will take a while to write properly and i have to go out now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXab6aLnWk&mode=related&search=
psi wheel video ^^
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_wheel <– psi wheel info
http://www.psipog.net <– online community/article site to do with "psi"… has a godo psi ball article too.
depends how good you are.
i've managed to get it to spin from standing 4ft away using a psi wheel thats about 4 inches in diameter. but that was after doing it each day for about a month.
now coz i havnt done it in nearly 1/2 a year, i cant even move it with my hand close. oh well, its just practice.
Wow. when i went on HBH today i though i had stumbled onto the OTHER forum im signed up to. (aliensthetruth). i signed up to take the piss out of bigger freaks than myself but they converted me to most stuff. lol. (but not to the existance of sentient aliens) and i do some pagan shite and i tryed some psionic stuff. it never worked for me. but i sometimes dream about stuff thats gonna happen. (never big stuff, just everyday things) like once i had this recurring dream (for about two years) of getting spun around with leaves above me and a bridge to the left. and one day we were on a school trip and this guy grabbed my bag and spun me around and it was exactly like in the dream… but another thing to discuss would be tarot. i've had some minor successes with that. ive found that lateralus by tool, aerials by system of a down or scheharazad by rimsky korsokov are the best music for meditating. lol.
http://www.meditationiseasy.com/ is great… i really like the concept of "death meditation"… yea and btw i just made my psi wheel like an hour ago and started playing with it… i got some really really minor results, but tomorrow i'll try to be .. err.. peaceful-ler when i give it a try… and i was kinda distracted..
yeah psi wheels easy to play with, you can get minor results almost instantly.
after just 4 days of me practising (for about 15mins a day) i was able to spin it, control the speed, control direction, stop it, etc etc
quite neat!
and in regards to meditation, peronally i'd say theres no set way to learn or practice meditation. everyone has their own personal way of doing it, and own expierances. one guy i know when he meditates he claims he see's a ball form that resembles his emotions. where as i just prefer to walk around a tropical island. if i do it well enough i can almost feel the sand and feel as if im actually there. great fun.
you sure??! that seems awfully long.
i remember getting instant results (although they were small) .. like the very first time i tried i got it to wobble.
and i remember teaching my gf at the time how to do it and she got it to make a full turn in her second session! but then again, she was a natural at things like that, had some weird things happen. like one time when we "were on a break".. i was at a campsite party with this other girl and we had just come out of the tent we were "resting" in, and then my mobile rings and it was her saying "wtf you just done with that girl!". many other weird things too, like occasionaly she will say to me what i've just been thinking about. very odd.
FUCK ME!!!! I don't belive in this psycic crap, alough I have been atuned to raikie for several years now I had totaly forgotten it and didn't belive in the stuff ( I got attuned cos my mum is a raikie master and wanted to attune me) anyway back to the story… I had never heard about this before.. I just made a psy wheel and the little thing is moving.. omfg, why.. there must be a reason. I have now closed the windows and doors and made sure there is no wind etc. and it's still moving. WTF omfg thank you cheese, this calls for some experiments.
lol i was EXACTLY like that at first!
read it on the HTS forums, i was into meditation at the time, so i thought "pffft might as well give it a go, so i can see for myself that it wont work".
setup my psi wheel, and bam it started moving! after that i was hooked! reminds me, i should really get back into it.
Yes, that statistic is correct, but you meditated before that, you hadn't mentioned it. Meditation is like, the key, to anything of similar skill. So assuming you have no idea what you are doing (no meditation or background) you aren't skeptical, you know it an be done by you, you actually get around to it, and work on it every day, then that statistic is right.
ok, I have finished the experiments for now. what I have done:
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Experiment - put psiwheel thing on a book Result - psiwheel still spins on command conclusion - wind is getting the psiwheel
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Experiment - put psiwheel thing on a book covered by a glass Result - psiwheel still spins on command conclusion - wind is getting under the cup somehow
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Experiment - put psiwheel thing on a book covered by a glass ducktaped to the book ad the base Result - psiwheel still spins on command conclusion - could be heat from hands or static electricity
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Experiment - put psiwheel thing on a book covered by a glass ducktaped to the book ad the base away from computer with static gloves on after washing hands with cold water Result - psiwheel still spins on command conclusion - WHAT THE FUCK!! (pardon my language) if anyone else has any reason why this is other than "psycic ability" please contact me and post here
I am also seeing if I can change the speed/direction. lets see how that goes!
I'm very suprised some people are getting it quickly, but I believe I understand the explination. We, as hackers, use logic and an odd form of searching for wierd things that uses our mind,more (or at least more in a different manner) than others, so we are more trained to be able to do that. I was a quick learner…and apperently alot of you are too, We need to send this to the Rhine Institute of parapsychology…mabye they can prove that by looking for exploits, or creativly thinking about a logical problem, can help prepare the mind similar to meditation.
besides, we came here and learned because we wanted too, and we continue because we are smart enough to do it…HBHers aren't nessicarily the bottom of the heap.
NC
Neo_Chalchus wrote: I'm very suprised some people are getting it quickly, but I believe I understand the explination. We, as hackers, use logic and an odd form of searching for wierd things that uses our mind,more (or at least more in a different manner) than others, so we are more trained to be able to do that. I was a quick learner…and apperently alot of you are too, We need to send this to the Rhine Institute of parapsychology…mabye they can prove that by looking for exploits, or creativly thinking about a logical problem, can help prepare the mind similar to meditation.
good theory. would make sense too. also i believe you have to be realitively smart to gain the full benefits from meditation and psionics. which does generally apply to most hackers and hbh members.
and congrats on nanoymaster getting it to work under a glass. alot of people have problems with getting the psu wheel to move if under glasses / bowls etc, (only because they mentally block themselves because they believe the obstacle will prevent them) .. good to see your getting the hang of it. by far picked it up alot faster than i did when i started.
thanks cheese, personaly I still don't belive in psycic ability or anything paranormal. but I guess I will never be able to explain it as neumerous people all around the globe have tryed (and failed).
it not like finding a bug in code eg. why isn't the damn loop working, oh yeah I'm not incrementing the number.
well i guess I will never get to the bottom of it!… it was good fun to play with for a while I guess
i get the same feeling when i complete a challange as when i do something weird. i have weird feelings of deja vu all the time coz i think i've like forseen something. and the feeling i get when i do something thats ben nagging me for weeks. (like the js challnges) is exactly the same. so i think that your theory is very good.
where do you get psi wheels? im intrigued….
http://dewarlorx.com/pyrokinesis.htm This sounds fun, It really seems to push the thin fabric of reality to its limits
This is where I start to get skeptical: all the different kinesesis.
Some of them are relly wierd and, I beleive, semi-impossible. I believe that some of the things can be accomplished from other abilitys modified to do something, Ex:
Pyrokinesis: Controling fire: Telekinesis, or using telekinesis to change wind around it causing it to move Heating or cooling own body: biofeedback Heating or cooling other people or objects- just another example of possible telekinesis to excite molecules, or stimulate bloodflow.
I honestly believe there is no way to shoot fire from your hand (would be sweet though)
I do believe many of the affects are achievable, but not by controling what it seems you are controling, but influencing it through other means…I do believe some of the kinesis's are real, but othes seem a little farfetched.
Personal opinion, others welcome, NC
found this list of kinesises (word?) to show you how some of them are a bit…wierd: http://www.answers.com/topic/kinesis-2
If all these are true, then I wasnt chronokinesis…that's right all you latin readers…you know chrono, the ability to control time! That would Friggen ROCK!!!
If you could have two of the abilities in the list, what ones would you have? And when I say have, I mean like mastered in a week.
NC
P.S: Mine would be Vitakinesis and Areokinesis. That way, I could just sweep anything I wanted away with wind…and then if I ever get hurt, I can jsut heal myself up, apperently (according to some, farfetched and extreme, websites, you can heal yourself up life wolverine in the xmen movies…friggen awsome!)
Lygokinesis, also known as Energiakinesis cause manipulating raw energy would rule. & Telekinesis just for the pranks that could be done. I say we try to make pimpkinesis….the ability to get laid at will ( w/o the use of money!). lol. I think my god damn psi wheel is broken. 0_o I just seem to have issues getting the thing to work decently on command.:@
I say we try to make pimpkinesis….the ability to get laid at will ( w/o the use of money!). lol.
If you actually had even the weakest psi power on the list and couldn't use it to get laid at will, either you don't have much of a will or you have a pretty severe handicap if even having cool superpowers can't overcome your inability to get laid.:matey:
I say we try to make pimpkinesis….the ability to get laid at will ( w/o the use of money!). lol.
If you actually had even the weakest psi power on the list and couldn't use it to get laid at will, either you don't have much of a will or you have a pretty severe handicap if even having cool superpowers can't overcome your inability to get laid.:matey:
hewhoisntthere wrote: I say we try to make pimpkinesis….the ability to get laid at will ( w/o the use of money!). lol.
already got it ;)
hewhoisntthere wrote: I think my god damn psi wheel is broken. 0_o I just seem to have issues getting the thing to work decently on command.:@
keep trying, takes a while to master it completely.