Hate Homework? Check this out

Okay so I got this idea a few days ago for a site where people could do each other's homework. This may sound retarded but think about it. Have you ever been assigned English homework and just WISHED it was.. say… CISCO homework? Well there's also a kid somewhere that doesn't understand/want to do CISCO and loves English. You get the idea..

I didn't plan the whole thing out yet but the general idea is gonna be like this. People upload their homework to the site and while someone does their homework, they do someone else's in the subject of their chosing.

So what do you guys think? The site is http://www.homeworkswap.com/

I'll be relying on HBH to do the pen testing for me when the site launches. My PHP coding is just….bad….

I think the system would be difficult to make in terms of how to make it reliable as in make sure the person you swap homeworks with actually does it.

There's a point system. So check this out. Say you put up a History homework and make it worth 4 points. Someone can preview the assignment and decide whether or not they want to do it. If they want to, then you get to preview a random segment of their completed assignment before you accept it. If you feel that the job has been well done, the entire homework gets sent to you and you lose 4 of your points which get transferred to the other person.

I'm still working on a more efficient way of ensuring a properly done assignment so any suggestions are welcome.

But the problem is people will be relying on someone else to be doing their homework for them, but say a bunch of people want to prank someone, so they accept his homework, but don't do it. He was relying on them for homework but didn't get it. Will it be just another of those risks you have to take if you are lazy?

It seems like a good idea, but one thing I would take into consideration is:

How would the users upload their homework?

Would they use a scanner to scan the homework paper and turn it into an image, then upload the image to the site? (If you do that, it could take up quite a bit of bandwidth and space)

Or would they hand-type up the homework in plain text and then submit it to the site?

Yeah, cause, this doesn't exist a billion times already.

Protip: people will want to swap MONEY for HOMEWORK, or HOMEWORK for MONEY.

I've never seen anything like this before.

You can essentially trade points in for money or buy points if you're REALLY lazy.

There will be people that try to ruin the community for everyone else. Those people exist in every community we have. Just gonna have to pick em off one by one I guess. Can't think of a good solution to some of the problems at hand…

And I think scanning it would be the ideal solution. Or if the assignment is online like most schools have it… makes it much easier.

[quote]thehacker3 wrote:

There will be people that try to ruin the community for everyone else. Those people exist in every community we have. Just gonna have to pick em off one by one I guess./quote]

Why do I think of Fritzo when reading this?

thehacker3 wrote: I've never seen anything like this before.

You obviously didn't bother with silly basic entrepreneur-esque matters, like market research.

Why do I think of Fritzo when reading this?

Because you don't know him.

I know Scribd.com has something similar but not quite a full site dedicated to this.

If the majority of the student body never heard of anything like this my goal is achieved… That's the case here.

I'm not looking to make a ton of money off of this. Just hoping to get a lot of people using it and finally have a creation of mine succeed.

thehacker3 wrote: Just hoping to get a lot of people using it and finally have a creation of mine succeed.

Previous virtual escapades resulted in failure? Analyse your weaknesses then.

Lack of dedication/caring I guess.

There haven't been many, only like gaming servers and stuff like that.

Do you have any suggestions for this site?

I see the idea totally crashing around the concept of people doing a bunch of peoples homework incorrectly on PURPOSE to fuck em up. ;)

Not really. Not everyone out there is an ass.

There will be people that actually contribute to the community and those are the people that will stick around to see it grow into something.

And to whoever cleared the shoutbox… why lol. just why..

as much as I hate the idea, I could see something like this work and make a ton of money. however, regardless of its workability in general, I doubt you will actually pull it off.

Just do your homework, it's really not that hard if you pay attention. You can even multitask while doing homework so why do so many people complain about it?

the comment system appears to have been removed :/

And where would you get the money from to trade in for points?

Oh goody. Who wants to do my Second Order Linear Differential Equations for me? But seriously, this isn't a good idea. Yeah, it'll get your boring homework done, but when it comes time to take the test you'll have no idea what's going on. Homework exists for a reason.

ynori7 wrote: Oh goody. Who wants to do my Second Order Linear Differential Equations for me? But seriously, this isn't a good idea. Yeah, it'll get your boring homework done, but when it comes time to take the test you'll have no idea what's going on. Homework exists for a reason.

Actually, I paid a friend money to copy his science homework for me quiet a few times. Since I get A's on the tests already, I didn't feel like wasting time with homework on stuff I already understood. I would have just not done it or paid anyone to do it for me, but on the off chance the teacher does check for homework (he just glances at it), and you dont have it, you get a 2h detention.

But, of course, thats not gonna be the case for most people using his site.

stealth- wrote: actually, I paid a friend money to copy his science homework over to mine quiet a few times, since I get A's on the tests already.

What?

spyware wrote: [quote]stealth- wrote: actually, I paid a friend money to copy his science homework over to mine quiet a few times, since I get A's on the tests already.

What?[/quote]

oh, I worded that wrong…………………..

Fixed :)

Why not do your homework? It's not like it's something that demands a genius. If you think it's boring, welcome to what we would like to call reality. Not everything you do will be fun and interesting. If you don't feel like it, just get your thumb out of your ass and do it, you lazy… (we'll leave it at that).

Seriously homework is as mentioned before there for a reason. Even if you don't learn anything about the stuff the homework is for, you'll learn how to do homework and also how to actually get anything done. Lazy asses aren't appreciated when you'll start looking for a job. Sure, you might say that it's years ahead. Those years can pass quickly.

c4p_sl0ck wrote: Why not do your homework? It's not like it's something that demands a genius. If you think it's boring, welcome to what we would like to call reality. Not everything you do will be fun and interesting. If you don't feel like it, just get your thumb out of your ass and do it, you lazy… (we'll leave it at that).

Seriously homework is as mentioned before there for a reason. Even if you don't learn anything about the stuff the homework is for, you'll learn how to do homework and also how to actually get anything done. Lazy asses aren't appreciated when you'll start looking for a job. Sure, you might say that it's years ahead. Those years can pass quickly.

Personally, I don't find it a problem to have found a way to avoid doing something completely un-nessesary. It's not like im a skipper who does no work or homework at all, just in that one specific class, which I was getting 100% in that semester until about half way through. I do get all my other homework done, so don't take this the wrong way :)

Quite simply if i don't trust myself enough to just do my homework so much that i have to upload it AND do someone elses… then why would i trust someone else to do my homework ? Though im in IT Sec classes so im sure there's a few on site i could send it too :P

S1L3NTKn1GhT wrote: Quite simply if i don't trust myself enough to just do my homework so much that i have to upload it AND do someone elses… then why would i trust someone else to do my homework ? Though im in IT Sec classes so im sure there's a few on site i could send it too :P

All that stuff earlier was pretty off topic, so let me get back on topic by saying I agree with you. The general type of people this sort of service would attract makes me think that people are going to abuse it. However, I do belive is the service was implemented very carefully, and you gave them a reason to not want to cheat, then it would work very well. However, the imperative trick is stopping people who are going to sabotage other peoples work and convincing them (or scaring them) into not doing it.

I'm not encouraging cheating.. Well not really. Reality is, a LOTT of kids copy homework in school anyway. There are also homework's that are just completely retarded and pointless.

Perfect example: I had a US History assignment every night for the last 2 terms. It had to be hand written and at least 1 page front and back every time. I would rather do 200 kids' calculus homework's than do one of those history homework's. They were just retarded. The teacher was a retard and completely overlooked that every student scored 94+ on her tests and proceeded in giving these crazy assignments.

I'm not doing this to cheat homework.. I have a 102.23 average in school and do all my homework every night. I feel that this would just save me and a lot of other people a LOT of time.

And there's no problem with trading in points for money. It'll be like 100 points for $20 or something like that. 100 points is a minimum of 100 people using the site (each person gets a point to start off with) and a homework assignment earns you anywhere from 1-10 points based on difficulty. If you do the math, it's worth it for me. Even in the worst case scenarios I still have a very good price:user ratio.

And yeah, comment box has been removed due to skathgh420 finding a pretty huge vulnerability - thanks man!

Well lets say I upload my history homework and pick up someones english homework to write an essay. Seeing how I am already to lazy to do a quick google search on the subject, whats the off chance I won't just plagiarize an essay. In the end it might look good to the receiving party and when they turn it in they could get suspended or possibly expelled (If in collage).

You can argue that the person does a google check to try and make sure its not a copy but then they put in more work then they had to to just write the thing. Even if your "staff" do this for them then why don't they just write the essay.

All in all it becomes too much and if everyone did their homework to reinforce what they learned there would be no issue.

I'm in college right now and homework has different values depending on the teacher. I let that dictate whether or not I do the homework.

In my C++ class homework was only worth 5 percent so I didn't bother with the assignments. However in english everything was essays and if you didn't do your homework then you had no essay, and with no essay you failed irregardless of your journal and vocab.

Why do people go through all this effort to get away with cheating? If you put the energy of avoiding detection on doing your homework instead you'll be done in no time. And if you think that the homework is too stupid, talk to the teacher about it. If they don't listen talk to their boss, discuss the matter with other pupils etc.

And not only do you cheat yourselves, you bring others into cheating as well by bragging about how good you were at cheating successfully. If you want to cheat, go ahead, just don't drag other people into it.

Even though it is just stupid to not do your homework, it is a good idea. I have got you some suggestions. First of all, there should be like a test including every subject which could rank users on their amount of knowledge. This would allow people to choose a certain range of marks, like: I want A+ students. The higher the rank demanded, the highest could be the number of points to be spent.

Another idea would be that users could penalize people who did not do the homework properly, either by plagiarizing, or simply, doing everything wrong. But the thing is that you would need a staff to check if the users' critics were right. If the users agree that even if the other guy had a lot of bad contributions, he/she is a good choice, then, they could just accept them and allow the swaping of homeworks.

Creating a rank that could say if students are good or bad is a good idea.

Anyway, just my thoughts… But i still think that this will fail and is just and excuse for a lazy guy who doesn't want to do his homework.

Hate homework that much? Don't do it. Simples.

Thanks for the input :)

Definitely sounds like a good idea to rank students. Yes, there will be a staff that checks every complaint and takes measures accordingly.

And once again, this isn't because I'm lazy. If I cared that much about not doing homework, I wouldn't go through the whole process of buying a web server to do it….

Besides, I'm in my senior year in high school. No one knows what homework is anymore. We're more occupied with college apps and stuff.

MoshBat wrote: [quote]system_meltdown wrote: Hate homework that much? Don't do it. Simples. I read the "simples" in that damn meerkat voice… So I'm not the only one who likes that advert?[/quote]

Yay! That's how it was meant to be read :D That advert is awesome.

@ Mosh, lol, I totally thought of you when I read sys's "simples".

About the topic of this thread, I agree, people should do their homework. I do it all the time, but I occasionally do sell my homework to people. We're discussing how the site could be better, not how to convince people to do hw.

According to the polls, a lot of people would like to see this site working. Who here knows how to do flash web design for good money?

thehacker3 wrote: According to the polls, a lot of people would like to see this site working. Who here knows how to do flash web design for good money?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG-

Well if it wasn't flash, I wouldn't be asking. I can do html coding myself.. It's not that difficult..

Give me one good reason you would want to do it in flash…?

Because kids my age are attracted to flashy things. It'll draw more attention.

Is there something wrong with flash?

thehacker3 wrote: Because kids my age are attracted to flashy things. It'll draw more attention.

Is there something wrong with flash?

Some people (for example spyware) think there is… Check this thread: http://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/is_it_just_me_or_am_i_incredibly_bad_at_designing_websites-67-14880_20.html

Makes sense.

Oh well, I might have a few flash elements and the main site in html. The goal is to get all of those "maybe's" to become yes's.

thehacker3 wrote: Makes sense.

Oh well, I might have a few flash elements and the main site in html. The goal is to get all of those "maybe's" to become yes's.

Too many people overdue flash. Sure it looks all good, but it lags on slow connections and its a bitch for mobile devices.

S1L3NTKn1GhT wrote: Too many people overdue flash. Sure it looks all good, but it lags on slow connections and its a bitch for mobile devices.

That is why you use the flash debugger and simulate a low download speed. There are presets for most common download times and you can set a custom rate.

I must agree, if you go all out with an augmented reality then you are defiantly overdoing it….a lot….