Military or not

I am confused on whether I should go into the military or not. Maybe do an internship with the NSA, they have a "work study program" and an internship program. What would be some other valuable career opportunities to take computer sciences to a profession. Something in the fields of Information Systems Security, or Cryptanalyst. Anyone have any future outlooks?

My ignorant 2 cents: You need to have pretty high tech skills to get into military for it.

Get to a university.

well i'm in the millitary for it, but not in US, so it's not the same they pay for my school, i live in a fort or a millitary barrack or a millitary base, anyway you like to call it.

but now i'm considering to live the army….

don't get me wrong the money is good, and i dont have to work to much.

but if i live the army i would have with a much bigger paycheck, and a whole shittload work to do, so i'm not sure yet what to do.

if your on your way to college, would advise you to go for it, if you dont like you can always quit, and continue studying alone.

mestar wrote: well i'm in the millitary for it, but not in US, so it's not the same they pay for my school, i live in a fort or a millitary barrack or a millitary base, anyway you like to call it.

but now i'm considering to live the army….

don't get me wrong the money is good, and i dont have to work to much.

but if i live the army i would have with a much bigger paycheck, and a whole shittload work to do, so i'm not sure yet what to do.

if your on your way to college, would advise you to go for it, if you dont like you can always quit, and continue studying alone.

live the army? do you mean "leave the army"? Im not making fun of you, just trying to make sure i understand your post correctly cause I am, too, considering going into the military when I get older.

chronicburst wrote: I am confused on whether I should go into the military or not. Maybe do an internship with the NSA, they have a "work study program" and an internship program. What would be some other valuable career opportunities to take computer sciences to a profession. Something in the fields of Information Systems Security, or Cryptanalyst. Anyone have any future outlooks? Before wasting time thinking about what you should do, determine what your options are. Apply for jobs and internships and programs, then choose from what what you've been offered; you can always turn down an offer. No sense considering an NSA internship if you don't get accepted (and an internship there is difficult to get).

yes, "leave the army"

and yes it's hard to get, but the way i see it, you don't need to have any special skills or so, all you need is to show a great deal of motivation and that will get you in, and you have to be healthy and of course have a tree digit IQ(not be retarded).

you will have a talk with a couple of "brain doctors" from the army and if you show a lot of motivation you will get in.

that is the case with my country,but all those programs are the same in all the countries,i know that for sure.

Well I could learn on the way going to the NSA, or I could find a penetration consulting firm. Or make a little shop some place. I don't really know, im still too busy learning. I would think the United States Air Force would offer something great for someone like me.

abstract_anarchy wrote: Well I could learn on the way going to the NSA You seem to be under the impression that you can just decide to do this on a whim. The NSA requires top marks, a full background check, and you have to sign a contract. You've really got to think these things through and find out if you've even got the qualifications. Visit their website and do a bit of reading. Find an email address and talk to somebody.

NSA sucks, don't go there. It'll eat your soul.

I have to been considering this as well, your reasons are more logical then mine but then again who is to judge. I would Say go for it, its not like you will be stuck there forever.

cis_slayer wrote: I would Say go for it, its not like you will be stuck there forever. You weren't paying attention. You have to sign a contract. That means you're required to work for them for a certain length of time.

ynori7 wrote: [quote]cis_slayer wrote: I would Say go for it, its not like you will be stuck there forever. You weren't paying attention. You have to sign a contract. That means you're required to work for them for a certain length of time.[/quote]

And you cant read.

I said Forever.

You will be there a Few years, but it is better to make progress somewhere you don't like then stagnate somewhere you enjoy. Either way it will be a adventure.

cis_slayer wrote: You will be there a Few years, but it is better to make progress somewhere you don't like then stagnate somewhere you enjoy. Either way it will be a adventure. Sigh…you've still got a lot to learn. Never enter a contract just because it sounds like it might be a fun adventure. Nobody ever thinks things through nowadays…

ynori7 wrote: [quote]cis_slayer wrote: You will be there a Few years, but it is better to make progress somewhere you don't like then stagnate somewhere you enjoy. Either way it will be a adventure. Sigh…you've still got a lot to learn. Never enter a contract just because it sounds like it might be a fun adventure. Nobody ever thinks things through nowadays…[/quote]

rofl, good one.

I think you dont know how to take what i am saying. It is hard to understand people through text so its all good.

If he researched something enough to know he wants to do it and is will to sacrifice a bit, don't let a contract scare you out of something that could be potentially wonderful to your career. Like i said before he wont do it forever…there is always a end.

And this ending is to come in 2012,,,

You guys…

1. NSA doesn't want you, get over it.
2. The world/universe/whatever won't end in 2012.

I'm in the military working tech and its not that hard. In the US at least you're earning college credits as you learn your trade and then once you get out of school you continue getting OJT and that looks better once you get out. also with all the benefits of the paid tuition and college programs they offer…

On the other hand you sign away at least 4-6 years of your life… >:P

cis_slayer wrote: [quote]ynori7 wrote: [quote]cis_slayer wrote: You will be there a Few years, but it is better to make progress somewhere you don't like then stagnate somewhere you enjoy. Either way it will be a adventure. Sigh…you've still got a lot to learn. Never enter a contract just because it sounds like it might be a fun adventure. Nobody ever thinks things through nowadays…[/quote]

rofl, good one.

I think you dont know how to take what i am saying. It is hard to understand people through text so its all good.

If he researched something enough to know he wants to do it and is will to sacrifice a bit, don't let a contract scare you out of something that could be potentially wonderful to your career. Like i said before he wont do it forever…there is always a end. [/quote]

By his posts I would say he hasn't done much research.

Well I seem to notice that the Nation Security Agency is a nice place to work after you get out of the military and get yourself a nice top secret clearance. Furthermore, if you were to do a work study program which starts a form of transcription or record. There will be a "Guarentee" of jobs afterwords making 15 grand a year. Take a job… Work. Graduate, go to college for Information Systems Security, get out. Go as an Officer into the military, Air Force I hear has great Information Security position, as would the Army, but I hear Air Force much better conditions. Maybe go to college again, a Military school, do the JMIC, Joint Military Intelligence College, program. Get out and go back to the NSA. Afterwords, I am hoping they will have me doing something illegal. Too many options.

I hear if you go into the military and get a Top Secret Clarence, many consulting companies will hire you because of the fact that you wont need to be background checked and have much money paid to do so. And that you have a nice clearance to permit new things. Which I honestly do not know what.

I know some of the people on this board are all ready working and adults. Great, would you like to share what you do, maybe it could inspire other, etc.

A neat job to do would be to travel the world and setup secure servers and use them as proxy servers for military operations // peoples use. How can people make money securing proxies and because they are selling the usage they have to keep logs. So these are what kind of people using these paid for services?

Its nice hearing from everybody.

Your chances of ending up in the NSA are about 1D~. You probably wouldn't even like your job there anyway.

True. But you can get secret clearance just going into the regulars. It does look better on a resume with companies who have access or would require you to have access to sensative information that would be considered important to national security.

S1L3NTKn1GhT wrote: True. But you can get secret clearance just going into the regulars. It does look better on a resume with companies who have access or would require you to have access to sensative information that would be considered important to national security.

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of that annoying American. What did you try to say?

Lol. I would also consult your parents if I were you. What do they think about you going into the military.

I'm thinking of going into web development.