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http://infowars.net/articles/September2008/150908Pharma.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/group-with-big-pharma-ties-wants-to-shut-down-vaccine-conspiracy-theories.html

Group With Big Pharma Ties Wants to Shut Down Vaccine "Conspiracy Theories" A foundation populated by the giants of business, banking, government and military wants to "vet" websites and limit the spread of information that it says creates "conspiracy theories".

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), fronted by Internet creator Sir Tim Berners-Lee, says it is worried about the way the web has been "used to spread disinformation".

Speaking to the BBC, Berners-Lee said that there needed to be a new system that would give websites a "label for trustworthiness" once they had been proved reliable sources. Only then would the rise of "cult thinking" be avoided according to Berners-Lee.

"On the web the thinking of cults can spread very rapidly and suddenly a cult which was 12 people who had some deep personal issues suddenly find a formula which is very believable," Berners-Lee said. "A sort of conspiracy theory of sorts and which you can imagine spreading to thousands of people and being deeply damaging."

Deeply damaging to who? one might ask. The answer is revealed in the list of The World Wide Web Consortium's 400 plus members, the cream of the corporate world in conjunction with government agencies such as National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and military entities like the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA).

Berners-Lee cites two examples of such "disinformation" or "conspiracy theories" in his interview with the BBC, both of which speak volumes about the aims and goals of this elite consortium:

Sir Tim talked to the BBC in the week in which Cern, where he did his pioneering work on the web, turned on the Large Hadron Collider for the first time.

The use of the web to spread fears that flicking the switch on the LHC could create a Black Hole that could swallow up the Earth particularly concerned him, he said. In a similar vein was the spread of rumours that the MMR vaccine given to children in Britain was harmful.

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First of all, the fears that the CERN atom smasher could create dangerous miniature black holes was not simply made up out of thin air by tin foil hat wearing kooks. It was a theory cited by preeminent scientists such as Professor Otto Rössler, a German chemist at the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen, who were so worried they attempted to obtain an injunction from the European Court of Human Rights that would block the collider from being turned on at all.

A further lawsuit was filed by two American environmentalists in the Federal District Court in Honolulu who sought to force the U.S. government to withdraw its participation in the experiment.

The debate and furor over the LHC that followed was in reaction to legitimate news articles and reports surrounding the project and the opposition to it. So you see, far from what the W3C would have you believe, the fears were not unfounded "conspiracy theories" pedaled by basement dwelling internet trolls.

But of course, that wouldn't matter to W3C given that they proudly list CERN itself as one of their members, thus any dissenting or critical material would naturally be considered "disinformation".

Example two, the "damaging conspiracy theory" that MMR vaccines are harmful, stems not from paranoid forum postings and misquoted blog entries, but from scientific research into the mercury based preservative thimerosal, developed by Eli Lilly and subsequently used in the MMR vaccine, along with many other vaccines.

Another big pharma kingpin, Merck & Co., Inc, is the world's largest supplier of the MMR triple jab, which was linked to autism a decade ago by scientists such as Dr Andrew Wakefield, amongst others.

Studies have shown a direct relationship between mercury in children's vaccines and autism. Further studies have shown a decline in neurodevelopmental disorders after the removal of thimerosal-containing vaccines. The preservative has been banned or limited in Europe, Japan, England and Russia. Furthermore, there are no reported instances of autism amongst religious groups such as the Amish community and very few instances are reported in the third world.

Autism was a practically unknown affliction some decades back, but now one in every 150 children is affected.

Mercury is the second most toxic metal known to man behind Uranium. Thimerosal is used in vaccines not because it is good for you, but purely because it prevents vaccine contamination. Yet some have questioned why thimerosal is even considered for vaccines because there are obviously safer alternatives to preventing contamination.

Many believe the only reason it is still in vaccines is that it allows substantial savings for pharmaceutical companies. Questions also remain about how those companies conduct vaccine research and how the government regulates them.

While the corporate media continues to hype reports that contend the evidence for links between mercury laden vaccines and autism are not concrete, there are scores of studies and testimony from credible figures asserting the exact opposite, some of which we have previously covered in depth.

However, it is little wonder W3C considers such information to be "damaging" given that Eli Lilly and Merck & Co., Inc. are both paid up and approved members of the Consortium!

Other W3C members include Novartis Pharma AG and Pfizer Inc., two more giants of the pharmaceutical industry.

Though it is abundantly clear that the aim of the World Wide Web Consortium is to relegate and eventually eliminate any information that its corporate and government sector members consider dissenting, the BBC article concludes, "The Foundation will also look at concerns that the web has become less democratic, and its use influenced too much by large corporations and vested interests."

The irony, the horrible horrible irony.

If anyone should be labeled with an "unreliable" rating, it is the WC3, a private interest group with a client list of big pharma titans as long as your arm telling you that their multi million dollar vaccine industry is totally safe and that any dissenting scientific fact or opinion, is a damaging conspiracy theory.

The efforts of groups and movements such as W3C represent an ongoing move to reign in the internet and limit its freedom.

On weekly basis we at Infowars and Prisonplanet receive e mails from across the US and the UK from people who have attempted to visit our websites yet found them to be blocked by filtration software that lists them as "hate" or "violence". The sites are already categorized as "untrustworthy" on forums and social networks, despite the fact that 90% of the material we post is made up of mainstream news articles.

This precedent is merely the first indication of what is planned for the Internet over the next 5-10 years, with the traditional web becoming little more than a vast spy database that catalogues people's every activity and bombards them with commercials, and where only government-approved websites that have obtained permission by means of an accepted registration application are allowed to be seen by web users.

Those who comply with centralized control and regulation of content will be free to enjoy the new super-fast Internet mark 2, where DVD quality movies can be downloaded in seconds, but at the cost of the Internet losing its role as the last true outpost of freedom of speech.


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Dude, autism isn't caused by vaccines. No one knows what causes it period. The problem is that autism is not a cut and clean mental disorder. It is properly called 'autism spectrum disorder' because a child is labelled autistic if they suffer from a certain number or percentage of symptoms. Actually, the current rise of autism is due in fact to the number of diagnosis that continue to rise. There are a variety of theories, including a theory of specific chromosomes being mutated, which would of occurred before any possibility of mercury contamination. The reason that the mercury chemical was recalled was because it exceeded EPA's safe estimates. The variety of symptoms are so huge, that many people previously labelled 'mentally retarded' are now called autistic. Furthermore, many autistic people aren't really stupid as in the sense of mental retardation, but are geniuses with brains wired differently. They basically can't communicate on what we would call a 'normal' level.

How do I know this? My younger brother is autistic, and my family and I have done a lot of research on the subject. We don't blame mercury, or anything for that matter.

Here's an example of some research - Read this article by Autistic Society: http://www.autisticsociety.org/News/article/sid=1065.html


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Conspiracies about conspiracies rule.


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Wtf. The whole CERN apocalypse thing was a fucking joke - it's disgusting how people were made to believe it. I can't believe reputable newspapers actually published headlines about 'the end of the world' in regard to the experiments going on at CERN.

And what is wrong with Pharma companies? Without them, lots of you would be dead right now. Cut Novartis AG some slack - they are one of the leading supplier of malaria vaccines in the world - which they produce for third world countries at substantial cost to themselves, and with zero profit margins. They are also conducing a lot of research into Alzheimer's (they've already got a sort of cure worked out for it, it is being tested by the FDA right now I believe, and they're also working on cures for autism).

So yeah, fuck that article.


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The web is a form of media and media has a big influence on people's thoughts. Its a powerful tool but it can come in many forms, not just the internet..


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**japanesedude wrote:**And what is wrong with Pharma companies?

Moneeeeeeey, and a position of power. Which results in moneeeeeeeey.


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MrMayhem wrote: The web is a form of media and media has a big influence on people's thoughts. Its a powerful tool but it can come in many forms, not just the internet..

Yeah.

also,

Deeply damaging to who? one might ask. Uh, lol, how about the people who are getting ill/dying because they aren't getting their vaccines, and the indian girl who committed suicide because she was afraid of the LHC? Fuck you, Alex Jones.


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The biggest issue I have with Pharma companies is the millions they spend on advertising their products to the very people who have zero medical training, listing the most generic symptoms, so people can go ask their doctors (who have spent years of their lives studying medicines, their effects, and have usually gained first hand experience of most of these diseases and the various cures) to medicate them, so that they can spend a few bucks on something that'll probably just mask the symptoms, and their insurance company can absorb the costs, which incidentally raises insurance cost for the rest of us smart enough to let our doctors do their jobs.

That's definitely one huge run-on sentence, but it's the whole basic cycle that I see.


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Yeah, if they've got aids drugs why up the price to well beyond any African person's means? Its all to make money, they dont care about anything else.


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ricktheguru wrote: Dude, autism isn't caused by vaccines. No one knows what causes it period. The problem is that autism is not a cut and clean mental disorder. It is properly called 'autism spectrum disorder' because a child is labelled autistic if they suffer from a certain number or percentage of symptoms. Actually, the current rise of autism is due in fact to the number of diagnosis that continue to rise. There are a variety of theories, including a theory of specific chromosomes being mutated, which would of occurred before any possibility of mercury contamination. The reason that the mercury chemical was recalled was because it exceeded EPA's safe estimates. The variety of symptoms are so huge, that many people previously labelled 'mentally retarded' are now called autistic. Furthermore, many autistic people aren't really stupid as in the sense of mental retardation, but are geniuses with brains wired differently. They basically can't communicate on what we would call a 'normal' level.

How do I know this? My younger brother is autistic, and my family and I have done a lot of research on the subject. We don't blame mercury, or anything for that matter.

Here's an example of some research - Read this article by Autistic Society: http://www.autisticsociety.org/News/article/sid=1065.html

My older brother is autistic. He would have had a normal birth, except for the fact that he was deprived of oxygen for 12 minutes (so that probably means that there could be a multitude of causes -though I never really believed that vaccination was one of them). Despite the irreparable damages, he is still competent and is very social (more so than I am). I've known that such people can be geniuses: Daniel Tammet, Kim Peek, Albert Einstein, Leonardo Da Vinci, John Nash, etc.Indeed, for the most part, it impacts their ability to socialize and as a matter of fact, it impacts their ability to do a lot of things that we would consider second-nature.


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heh, I had hypoxia for a while… but that was from opiate abuse. That's 99% in the past though.

as for the article, you should only have to read to this point to know what happened.

A foundation populated by the giants of business, banking, government and military wants to "vet" websites and limit the spread of information that it says creates "conspiracy theories".

If they planned to be somewhat "fair and unbias", they would be Google. But I doubt that's what's going on.

Can the government legally interfere with the news in the US? Or is this some kind of <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6unDcYBQSpQ>"there are no country borders on the internet"</a> thing?


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I did a little reading up just now. Vaccines used to come in those huge shots, but now they add mercury, heavy metals, and other preservatives. It's important to note that none of these are necessary, it's only purpose is convenience/money. I'm sure this crowd could see through some Microsoft marketing, how about this? Vista: more secure, more efficient, more compatible… On that note, do you think mercury is healthy? And that babies should be injected with it… Have you ever heard the phrase “Mad as a Hatter”? I haven't done too much research on this topic, but I bet the medical companies are taking advantage of the lack of long term studies, or something similar.

And it isn't that no one knows what causes autism, it's that autism can not be narrowed down to a single cause. There are environmental variables, genetic, dietary, etc. That's because the brain is a rather complex and sensitive organ. There are a million * a million things that affect your mind and body, and most people know jack shit about what they are doing to themselves.

I've followed enough conspiracy theories to know that they aren't always that far off. If you want a good “conspiracy theory” look into how cancer was cured in the 1920's, or the 92 documented, harmful side-affects of aspartame (anorexia medication & #1 most common food additive). In general, I've found that the FINDINGS are almost always correct, and the NewYork Times level news is usually a mile or two behind.