How, why, and when did you start hacking, and where has it brought you?
Hey, Night_Stalker here, I was wondering what made people want to start hacking/programming and when they did. I guess I should start it off by sharing my story with this nice community.
It all stared near the beginning of the year 2007, I wanted to hack my school, more specifically, many of my teachers' web sites. They had mad me angry by not only discriminating me due to the way i dressed and my hair ( pretty much my overall personal appearance ) and because I rarely ever did my homework. They thought I was "incapable" of doing it, or following the school's dress code. Due to that, they decided to fail me, however I had managed to slip by into the eighth grade :) (yes I have failed it cause I did NONE of the work then either… I didn't manage to slip by this time though )
Back to the original topic, so I was angry with them and I thought, "Well, I could hack their sites, on the movies it looks SO EASY!" Sp when I got home I started to look for sites on how t o hack. Yup I just typed it into Google. I was searching all night, I had found almost nothing, however, I stumbled upon HTS (Hack This Site dot ORG ) I was getting angry cause I had no luck for a hours so when I was signing up for HTS i did not even notice the alert saying I had to verify my email to activate my account. So I saw a link to HBH and checked it out, ( I DID notice the thing about email verification on HBH :) )
I have learned many things online, and from books too, some things from my friends… Although I may not be as well of a "hacker" as many people here on HBH, I certainly want to be as good as them, and I will not give up on attempting to become just ass good, and even better.. Everyone at one time has had trouble starting out with something, hacking is definitely not an exception for many people, it is not something you will learn overnight- it's been two and a half years since I have started and I still know next to nothing on the subject..
For those of you that are new to hacking, just keep searching, you will find what you are looking for. Just keep trying to learn, soon you will know more than you could imagine. Never give up, never let go just because you think you can't do it, you can, and eventually you will.
In these past year and a half, I have learned many interesting things, and made many new and very smart friends. I have changed my ways, I no longer want to hack the sites to cause damage, but more due to my sheer will for knowledge and curiosity, and to fix and protect, instead of damage and destroy. Had I not stumbled upon HBH I would never have been convinced to hack ethically and to not be a script kiddie. I owe so much to HBH and to it's wonderful community. HBH and members. thank you for everything :)
-Night_Stalker
My story is somewhat similar, I started with google ing HOW TO HACK, then that led to HOW TO HACK NETWORKS, which led to HOW TO HACK WEBSITES, and thats how i ended up here. Since i joined i have learned so much, such as social engineering, web hacking, xss, and so much more. But as far as what i can pass on, I try to. I mentor four people here on the site (soon to be five), I try to build secure websites (so far i have not been hacked, but that is not a challenge), and I just keep on trying to learn more. As far as why I started hacking, it started off as a competition between me and three friends when we started making websites. They thought they were better at programming than I was (and they WERE). So when I saw there sites, I decided to cheat, and hack into their sites, and erase there home pages, then I lost the competition, because I didn't know that one of the other people could hack, so I ended up being tracked, and lost all the info on my computer. To this day I still have no idea how they erased everything on it.
So, anyways to all the newbies out there, here is what you can do to make it in this site.
- Find out your question (start with a purpose)
- Research it on your own, you'll learn better that way.
- If you cannot find the answer, Make a well written and thought out post in a properly set up thread (E.g. programming thread: How to program a calculator) the name tells you what you are asking about and that you have an idea what your talking about.
- Never give up.
- Continue beyond the goals you set.
sorry for such the long post, but thats my story.
COM wrote: http://www.hellboundhackers.org/forum/how_did_you_start_hacking-19-5976_0.html I knew someone would do that :p
I agree with moshbat.But probably not for the same reasons…but whatever…
If you have just started with computers,let's say in the last 5 years, you have NO experience.you are just beginning to work with computers. You can't say i started "hacking" 2 years ago.This is never how it works.You set your ass behind a pc 2 years ago!That's what it is,nothing else.
Then,the title says: where it has gotten you sofar?
How the hell can it get you somewhere,if you are behind a pc for 2 years,are 15 years young,and live at your parents,with no job just school to attend to?
Please people,if you are behind a pc for a few years,that's nothing. Most of you probably won't even last the first 5 beginner years. Especially when it comes down to making choices at a young age.
Going out,or study the whole night? F u c k it i don't feel like it anymore,or go on for 5 more hours till the middle of the night,AGAIN?
Doing the extra time at school because you have resourses there.
Continue when you get home.Tell your buddies that you need to be behind a pc on saturday,and sunday,tell the girl you like your computer is at least AS important as she is.
Much more will come your paths grasshoppers. If you really think you can do it,you have to be determined, and make sure no1 makes you stray of your path.
Else it will never work. It will "cost you your life" if you want to become a good programmer,or something like that… Or as you guys like to call it,a "hacker".
It will take a life long dedication.Not a few years. And then,maybe if someone is willing to post their experiences, this could be an interesting thread. :happy:
This is exactly what i mean.
You think you know,but you have no idea.And that's normal considering your age.I do have a social life for that matter,and friends,and girlfriends and do all things a person should.I also have a family,and go out.Not as often lately,but still.
Number1 ticket to being single.Common kid,don't make me laugh.
With a few hours a day,you can't get anywhere in the IT world,because you will fall behind.Other people wanting be at the top,and are willing to spend time for that.Being 12 hours or more a day behind a pc.That's normal for people like us :happy:
Also,most coders i know that are grown have children,a job,a wife etc… So,i think you are so full of shit that your eyes are probably brown.
But you will find out in time. What i stated it the absolute truth as you will discover in about 10 years. If you can actually hang in there long enough.:happy:
I've been in more schools during my life than I can count on my fingers, switching between education systems as often as you buy a new pair of shoes, so learning subjects in school was always pretty difficult for me. That's why I ended up learning most of what I know through self-study at home, and when I got a decent computer and a proper net connection a few years ago, I knew that this would be what I wanted to learn more about. A computer is always there for you, it doesn't insult you, hit you, or start speaking a different language if you move to a new country. lol
japanesedude wrote: A computer is always there for you, it doesn't insult you, hit you, or start speaking a different language if you move to a new country. lol
What did I do wrong with my computer? It keeps telling me I am invalid!
Anyways, I will try to get my interview back online (looks at Mr_Cheese) so you can hear about me :P
I have been working on computers for many years…more than most on this site are old. But, yes I still do make mistakes. I never have once claimed to know everything but I know a fair amount. I spend 12+ hours a day in front of a computer but it is not learning…it is Working. Many people on this site are still in school so they have more time to spend with their PC.
Ohh and the thing about a computer being more important than your girl making you a "real hacker"…All I can say is how is this at all true? My family is more important than my computer, the computer is not a living being but an entity that is there to help/entertain in peoples thirst for knowledge and enjoyment.
Anyways, I babble. I disagree with many comments made on this thread so I will stop talking now. :evil:
My turn to babble. I've also been around computers for many years working with them and also repairing them.(Remember getting a new Apple2C, dos rocked) It doesn't really matter how much time or how long you spend on something it's how good you are at it. I have spent alot of time learning but you don't have to spend 12 hrs a day on it.
Let me tell you a story (babbling still) There was this bowler who bowled for 30 yrs, everyday but only had a 105 average. You know why? he was bowling wrong for 30 yrs. Time makes no difference in anything it's a matter of how well you can do it.
I'm done know.
I don't consider my self a hacker. More so a curious kid who takes up his summer with work and computers.
<story> I was at work and was talking to a friend about the structure on ISP routers and came to the history of the internet and where it began when a 30-yr old guy(Brandon) came to help with the food prep task when i mentioned the ARPANET and Brandon look over and his jaw dropped. He said he hadn't heard that name in over 10-yrs and was suprised a kid of 16 new anything about it. </story>
DeafCode wrote: I don't consider my self a hacker. More so a curious kid who takes up his summer with work and computers.
<story> I was at work and was talking to a friend about the structure on ISP routers and came to the history of the internet and where it began when a 30-yr old guy(Brandon) came to help with the food prep task when i mentioned the ARPANET and Brandon look over and his jaw dropped. He said he hadn't heard that name in over 10-yrs and was suprised a kid of 16 new anything about it. </story>
So you're leet coz you have heard of ARPANET…. Also kid? Wernt you holding your age about moshbat's head a few posts ago?
So far I have agreed with just aboot everything moshbat has said and disagreed with most of darksums thoughts…
Anywho… Seeing Im only 15 shows how new to computers i am because I only started 2 years ago…ish. Since I was 5 we had a mac at home and I would always be on it whenever I got the chance. I've always been a computer guy but when I heard my friend say something about hacking sites I asked where he learned stuff. That's when I first heard of HTS. Took me less than 10 minutes on Basic 1. Prolly took me 4 days tops for all the basics. Then my knowledge started growing from there…
I aim to continue learning as much aboot comps as possible so I don't plan on leaving anytime soon.
Started hacking in late 2006 because it looked cool. It's brought me much happiness and a hobby that will last a life time..
@fashizzlepop: darksun is just an elitist. He thinks that because he is older, he is therefore better. Ah he's probably just jealous that all these young folks can show him up. =)
It's a shame I'm not around this site much anymore but, darksun, if you were offended by my statement either suck it up and get on with your.. life? - Or bitch about me in this thread.. it really doesn't matter because it all comes down to skill in the end.. and I'm pretty sure your menstrual cycle doesn't change the skill these people possess.
Or you could add me to messenger and have a good ol' e-fight.. wulss at yahoo dot ca
I'm a busy guy, but never too busy to match wits!
this is actually interesting…. :P
I don't really remember when I actually got into hacking in all honesty… I just remember my cousin who also is hacker told me that I would never be a hacker when I was 8 and that was huge portion of my inspiration… Also I just wasn't the kid who was satisfied by information, I was the kid who was satisfied by understanding of information…. For example, people would be satisfied by the fact that rainbow exist, but I was the kid who wanna know why we see rainbow after rain and such…. and when I grew older, I started to reject the reality and authority and substituted my own so called justice to justify my actions based on my knowledge… and I think that is good enough qualification of being hacker….
while I'm at it… I just tell you why I'm so involved in hacker community…. I think that we humans, feed on food, waster,oxygen and knowledge…. it's true that some people solely exist based on food water and oxygen…. and I personally don't see the difference between them and animals…. (Don't get me wrong I love those animals, they keep me entertained and all…) and it appears that hacker community seems to have less animals then any other community, therefor I like to involve myself in to such community….
and it got me to pretty darn good place I think….
I know that it's generally frowned upon to revive old threads just like it's generally frowned upon to dig up people's ancestors just to have someone to tell your thoughts about a certain topic to. However, let's take a good look at our friend wikipedia, namely this quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#Administrators_and_moderators said: Other features may include sticky threads, allowing moderators and administrators to cause significant threads to display at the top of the forum's index.
If there's a perfectly good road leading from point A to point B and you're at point A, then if you desperately want to get to point B there's no need to build an entirely new road just because people have decided not to use the one already there for a bit of time.
Maybe I just have the mindset or what, but if you put hacking in real life I had a habit of doing it all the time, Experimenting was the best part soooooo,
OK, well I guess i had quite some non related progress before as in I played RPG maker (and actually made one RPG, game play up to 1 hour, and it took FOREVER to set up all the events and make environments) And I played around with GAMESHARK for PS1. Then after I had a whole year on C++ in high school, sadly the teacher retired after my year in it. It helped me look at code with a little more logic.
funny, I couldn't help messing with Grand Theft Auto 3 computer version by changing the attributes of the weapons and vehicles, cause the normal cheats were boring.
But that was back around 2002-2004.
at about 07' my friend showed me Youtube video's on "hacking". Now i was interested cause one of my favorite movies was Hackers. Though I didn't pick up programs or anything, I pondered about where these ideas came from and how they worked. Of course I did a lot of labor work and the only intellectual output was the QC auditor, and good friend. This guy is awesome, the man knew science in and out and did is own experiments at home, so we always debated about theory, and/or smoked pot lol.
Further after, I finally took initiative, inquiring a less demanding job, and picked up a book, Hacking: The art of Exploitation by Jon Erickson. I read the first 1/3 got a little impatient and searched for actual sites leading to Darkmindz, and now here.
Of course I'm struggling on getting started, as I'm avoiding the use of tools if all possible, unless theres no other way. Ugh, theres so much to read I'm surprised I don't get hangovers in the morning. Even then putting it into use is even harder.
Didn't expect it to be so long sorry bout that.
@pikachu and JJbutler ->
What does it say that system has a lot of point here? Maybe,he has time to spend here? Like you both do to? I aren't even bothered with doing any missions anymore, as they completely miss all sense of reality. Well,most do…
Who the fuck knows system_ outside hbh? Or you both? Except friends :vamp: What has he accomplished outside hbh? Or you both? Maybe you friends like to believe that youre leet, but thats more likely due to your manipulative behavoir and talk.
Just try to go get a job somewhere in it, tell them how good you are. How you can soak up info like a spunge. Dude,you talk like a foo,and you know it. It is becoming more and more and more a kindergarten here.
just keep on ranting kiddies:happy: One day you will be grown,your brain will be grown andyou will see clearly.
@darksun: Please leave your rant fests where people actually care.
I know system. he is a good guy. He runs a security company online. so YES he is know outside of here.
also…please work on your spelling…babel fish is not the best at translating any language properly!
but this thread should be moved to the other one about the exact same topic Looks at administrators…