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Guys I just dont understand it. I plan on going into the Marines and I want to get be there for computers and cyberwarfare. Everyone has been telling me that cyber-warfare is done as a Crypto. But isnt Crypto totally not hacking. Why would it be hacking if it is "crypto". Does anyone know if it is as a crypto or not? Is there like a special duty to be in a cyber warfare position. Or is it a Cryptology position?


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First off i was in the marines in for computers. Its not as intense as they wont u to belive. Cyber warfare is many things, yes cryptography is one of those things. But if you didnt know that then what they probably will do is what they do to almost half the recuits get there job forced chaged right after boot camp usally to infantry.


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If you want to get into computer warfare, I would suggest the Air Force. There is less chance of having your job changed after basic and if you are stationed in Iraq you will be on a big Airbase where there is little chance of getting placed in a dangerous area. The Army has the longest deployment in Iraq as well. I've got a few friends in the Military, and this is what they have said about the different branches.


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Hmmm. My dad was in the Air Force. The thing about the Air Force is that I want to be able to call myself a Marine. Not an Airmen. Just the fact of proving to myself I made being a Marine is enough to make me like a lot of 100% happier about life. I also want to be stationed in U.S. You know, live on base. Maybe get married with kids. In the future. Haha being based in Hawii would be a dream!


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SET wrote: But if you didnt know that then what they probably will do is what they do to almost half the recuits get there job forced chaged right after boot camp usally to infantry.

hahahaha… yeah, I heard that happens. The other thing is they might say "we don't need an electrical engineer(or whatever), but we do need <insert cruddy/ dangerous job>

But I think US Navy brags about having the best tech. Talk to people who are taking the exact same plan as you. They are out there. ask exactly what they did, and when. The main things I've heard about are recruiters promising more than they can give, or the contract somehow becoming invalid. The military does have more advanced tech, but you probably have to work a while to get to it. I heard an average of 10 years because companies like Microsoft will give them ideas and prototypes. (Correction: Microsoft would probably only sell.)

Other than that, you can learn almost anywhere, provided you try. Edit: Personally, I wouldn't like the idea that my education is under a contract and that I can only learn x amount in the next 10 years or whatever. And college is too fun. Let us know how you get passed their network protocals so you can hack too;)


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If you are just going into the Marines just to say that you are a Marine you are stupid. If you go into the service go for benefits and whatever will help you in the long run. Also, if you plan on staying on a base in the US, chances are you probably wont.


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chronicburst wrote: Hmmm. My dad was in the Air Force. The thing about the Air Force is that I want to be able to call myself a Marine. Not an Airmen. Just the fact of proving to myself I made being a Marine is enough to make me like a lot of 100% happier about life. I also want to be stationed in U.S. You know, live on base. Maybe get married with kids. In the future. Haha being based in Hawii would be a dream!

I have a best friend who is a former Marine who did infantry as well as several relatives and other friends who were/still are in the Marines. The problem is right now you are pretty much going to Iraq because those contracts have loop holes in them where they can declare you unqualified for this or better qualified for that. Recruiters need to sign more people and will say just about anything to get you to sign up because once that paper is signed they own you. The Marines are especially strict about that sort of thing. It is common to here Marines and people of the other branches of the Military say that you get married to the Marines when you sign that paper. They will dictate every moment of your life after that point. Some people like this sort of life, but if you think you are going to stay in America you are probably not going to be able to do that.

The Marines require more dedication than any other branch except the Navy SEALS. They earn that name and most people who join find out that they don't belong there because like you they join for the wrong reasons. You can't join just to say you were a Marine. You have to join because of what you want out of life. You have to want what the Marines have to offer. As far as technology goes, the Air Force and Navy focus more on computer related things. All branches have computer people, but Marines are a different sort of fighting unit. They have the longest boot camp and the toughest assignments. They go in first remember that. Also, keep in mind that just because you are told one thing it doesn't mean the military will deliver. Out of all the people I know in the Marines only one has not been to Iraq. He is currently stationed in Japan. None of them planned on going overseas when they joined either. Keep this in mind and talk to former Marines and people from other branches who are no longer in the military if you want a good picture of what life is like in each of the branches. Don't just trust the people who are trying to get you to sign the paper.