FireFox Suks

So i was looking at all the challeges and i came across one that gives 5 points to a person using Firefox. WHY? I mean Firefox has the dreaded memory leaks. Yes i was a great browser a heck of alot better then IE but i belive the best browser out there for hacking or just surfing the web is Maxthon located at Maxthon.com. Maxthon you can create Aliases, Mouse movement commands, a hide Maxthon button combo, Moniters programs running on webpages, download flash movies without a plugin, Memory managment features, page editor, Web Page Capture, Tab Tree, And i have yet to run into a memory leak. This website should have a challege to for getting maxthon not the left behind FireFox. The Fox is dead!

i rarely have memory leaks for the fox, and im perfectly happy with it. no need to preach to us :)

you should try it it has everything Fireox has and IE has + a heck of alot more. and it allows plugins and look changes. just like Firefox. You probably would fall in love with it. I was one of those Firefox is best browser guys into i got Maxthon. ANd rarly still means u had some memory leaks. Imagine no memory leaks.

meh, im fine with firefox. im sure some people would love maxthon but as with cars, firefox gets me from a to b and has some good plugins, therefore its fine for me. im sure others feel the same

Meh, I won't say anythign until I try it, but theres a few things I'd like to point out.

I have never noticed mem problems with firefox on my computer PLUGINS! HUNDREDS OF THEM! ____WEB DEVELOPER Plugin!!!

About:config. Need I say more? (and customizability)

Portable USB Firefox

As mr noob said, it gets me from a to b… very efficiently!

you have no right to say firefox sucks. maybe you prefer another browser, but to say it sucks just makes you sound dumb. There are several thousand people on this site who can attest to that… and I'm sure not every one of them is wrong when they say that.

I can say it sucks becuase i have used both from promoting Firefox to every IE user i met. But now that i have used maxthon i find that Firefox can hold a candle to it. that giveas me the right to say it suks. IF it didnt i wouldnt say it.

Same here i've never had an issue with firefox, the only hassle i've ever had as u mentioned was having to download plugins to view JAVA and flahs, but after you've done that theres all the 1000,s more plugins which i totally dig( i think someone mentioned the web developer plugin , oh yeah, SUPER USEFUL :) ) As for maxthon sounds cool havnt' really heard of it or used it so i'll have to give it a shot sometime b4 i can reallly comment further on this topic.

i think firefox is great.

as far as rendering CSS and content is concerned, to be honest IE 7 wins out of them all.

but firefox has something most other browers dont have…. ability to code and install plugins.

i have several plugins running at the moment that make my online life so much easier.

firefox is a great tech-savy, developers browser… .. if you want a browser that makes things look pretty then use IE.

Mr. Cheese

Maxthon browser sopports plug-ins self made plugins. Items that reqiure IE to look at most of the time will still open in Maxthon

SET wrote: Mr. Cheese Maxthon browser sopports plug-ins self made plugins. Items that reqiure IE to look at most of the time will still open in Maxthon

No one gives a shit. People will use the browser they want to based on their own experience, not on a bunch of bullshit propaganda that you read from the product's homepage. Now let it be.

First off i didnt read any of this off the website. I downloaded it and tried it out. I discovered all this on my own. Maybe u have no idea on how to try things out becuase u cant understand the meaning of try new things and all you ever do is what ur told. but me on the other hand try things out and tell ppl about them so they can use the best things out there. I am not saying belive what i say all i am saying is Try it out. i can almost 100% belife that you would say its better then Firefox. But then again i bet you will think ur leet and its so leet to use firefox. Dont fool urself.

SET wrote: But then again i bet you will think ur leet and its so leet to use firefox. Dont fool urself.

well, i work as a web developer, and i find, from experiance out of all the broweers i've tried… firefox wins.

strict when it comes to standards complaincy, has a web developers plugin, user agent switcher, and HTTP Live Headers plugin… by far the most valuable plugins out there for professional web developers.

yes other niche browers probably do accomodate these, but i find firefox makes these plugins so easy and simple to use.

firefox and IE7 get my vote.

See what i mean ppl wont even try new things. What if Everyone stuck with windows Paint and never tried Adobe photoshop. Man graphics today would suk. But amazingly ppl tried new things and found WOW Photoshop si better then paint. But its logic that you just ised cheese that shows how leet ppl wont try to see if maybe someone made something better then there used to.

btw i do web part time . GoTorch.com (i know it sucks but we are redoing it since we backed away from web and moved to apps now coming back to web again)

I tryed this out and its prity good

@about:config on firefox; Max has its own (with a GUI) max:wizard

Thank you

Also try under tools Maxthon Setup Center has alot of extras there Like mouse movement commands and aliases

fires doesn't suck, you cant say that, its a good program you make better, but max has some nice features and Firefox has, btw hbh isn't normally as rude as this, its just because your acting like you know better and being very patrunizeing(sp) :P

Sorry if i came off that way. Didnt mean to be i put firefox suks to get views which it did. it was named diffrent when i first posted but no one was looking at it. So i went a lil harsh. But i usally not this way ether. LOL i just promoting new things for ppl to try. Its up to them to switch or not. And if they try it and dont like it then i am more inclined to listen to them. then if they never tried it at all.

You could right a article for HBH with the pros and cons of it, to add firefox in it at all, just explain the brozer, the pros and the cons…

i'd have to say that which is better really depends on what you're trying to do as is the case for most programs (e.g. ms paint is sometimes more convenient than photoshop). firefox has a lot of nice plugins, which i find useful. i personally prefer ie7 for my general browsing becuase it's simple and i like the setup. opera isnt bad either. (i do have to say though, netscape and safari generally suck)

SET wrote: Thank you

Also try under tools Maxthon Setup Center has alot of extras there Like mouse movement commands and aliases

There's a firefox addon for that, I believe. Haven't tried it, keyboard shortcuts are enough for me.

Maybe i did go about it a lil wrong maybe i should write a artical and be non bias about the whole thing Firefox Vs Maxthon. Hmm maybe i will find time to do that.

firefox gives me everything i need, there is a limit on how well you can surf the web. it gets me where i want to be

• quickly
• easily
• safely

what more can i ask for? i personally use the web developers tool bar a LOT so without it my efficiency would drop making maxthon a bad option.

and as for maxthon's features (here) pretty much everything can be done with an FF extension.

maybe when more developers get on board adding many new features and better quality plugins (those look pretty bad) then people will migrate.

remember, most of the population is stuck with IE because they simply dont know that there are alternatives. we have to redirect them from it somehow and at present, the most commercial is Firefox.

its better than nothing, right?

SET wrote: First off i didnt read any of this off the website. I downloaded it and tried it out. I discovered all this on my own. Maybe u have no idea on how to try things out becuase u cant understand the meaning of try new things and all you ever do is what ur told. but me on the other hand try things out and tell ppl about them so they can use the best things out there. I am not saying belive what i say all i am saying is Try it out. i can almost 100% belife that you would say its better then Firefox. But then again i bet you will think ur leet and its so leet to use firefox. Dont fool urself.

Did you even read my post?

The argument you've provided has to be the weakest most inconsistent slice of garbage that I've ever seen. "I have no idea how to try things out because all I ever do is what I'm told", and yet, YOU want me to do what YOU tell me. You know, you're not some fucking know-all god that is instantly right about every little thing you say.

Also, I do NOT use firefox because "I think it's leet". I've tried a wide variety of browsers, and find firefox to suit my needs best.

So don't you fucking DARE go around making assumptions about what I think.

Mr_Cheese wrote: if you want a browser that makes things look pretty then use IE.

Or use the IE Tab extension for Firefox ;)

haha, yeah system, I use IE tab for school site… They made web pages in PowerPoint, gaaaargh!

IE7 also has extensions, it's called add-ons. There are tons of them, you can code your own add-on for it as well and my favorite is Fiddler, with this single add-on, you can do what dozens of extensions for Firefox do. Fiddler can also work with ANY web browser that support proxies as well:

http://www.fiddlertool.com/

With fiddler you can see the HTTP and HTTPS packets, you can code rules which are javascripts, with them you can modify anything in the packets such as user-agent, cookies, anything.

Firefox is good, highly customizable, it'd be cool if they could do a version for mobile phones, cause IE on Windows Mobile, really sucks!

If you want speed, safety, Opera is the best. It's made to be light, it put the maximum stuff in cache. All the benchmark prove that FF and IE are far away from Opera.

For web programmer Firefox is the best for one reason, Firebug. It's the best tool you can have for debugging DOM, Javascript, CSS and AJAX. There are also plenty of other extension that are really usefull in Firefox like GreaseMonkey Script, Stylish, NoScript (good protection against XSS), etc.

Also memory leak is bug that mean it can be fix.

Mr_Cheese wrote: as far as rendering CSS and content is concerned, to be honest IE 7 wins out of them all.

As far as I know IE 7 barely pass Acid test and give the worst result between him, Firefox, Opera and Safari.

Arto_8000 wrote: If you want speed, safety, Opera is the best. It's made to be light, it put the maximum stuff in cache. All the benchmark prove that FF and IE are far away from Opera.

Indeed, I gave opera a whirl for a month or two and found it very secure compared to other browsers.

However, its download manager was garbage, and I didn't like the "wand tool". Its widget collection was also lacking.