Snooping parent Problem
My dad recently found out that I go on HBH. I've found out that hes been trying to get into my email accounts and history. I also know he tried to find a program to get passwords and I think theres a keylogger coming up. I've changed my passwords so he dosn't know them but how do I prevent upcoming problems with my dad? How do I stop him? Thanks.
Well trying to uninstall or deleted the keylogger they want to install is giving a reason to his parent to keep the keylogger. The best you can do his talk to them and ask them why they want to spy you and try to convince them its not necessary, be honest don't lied. If my parent knew i'll explain them. Don't be afraid to confront them, unless they have a very very very very conservative mind and don't care of what your saying, witch i hope isnt your case.
Explain to him everything. Wat a hacker is and stuff, and then, tell him, "Wait, is tht a keylogger on my machine? Well thats a hacking technique,,, retrieving passwords… ya….. DAD! YOUR A HACKER! " or something. lol. If the logger is installed, go nuts looking for the log files and deleting them. Or replacing them, using same formats and times… I personally like the hammer
If you mean like a document your dad can't open, I got just the thing.
Stegnos Locknote (http://www.steganos.com/LockNote.exe)
Save all your notes in a text file with a pretty good encryption, and ofcourse a password security system.
There's only one prob, if your dad installed a keylogger, he can see what you type. So I advise you to code a program in visual basic that replaces the keyboard input with another letter, I will be happy to code it for you, it's very nifty xD. Your dad sees you typed "E" but actually you typed "Y", for example.
rofl, not if he's using a dif computer. btw, what does a keylogger show if someone backspaces? cuz if it says "<backspace>" then you could have some fun just typing like markupi(backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace) see (backspace backspace ) you(backspace backspace backspace ).
lol
Well I think the only solution that will last is talking to your parents about hacking. And not "… Dad, it's something I think you should know about me… I hack." (Sounds like explaining that you're homosexual :p) but just make it sound good.
My parents know I'm into hacking, and they find it good, since I can always fix their computer (and their friends' computers) when something happens. Make him understand that you're a part of a computer culture based on knowledge, friendship and freedom. You know your dad, so I think you know how to make things sound good in his ears ;)
Don't hide and be ashamed of being a hacker. That won't work in the long run.
Good luck! Peace B)
You could make him think you are not into it, or you can just convince him it's alright. Possibly the hackers manifesto by the mentor?(same time post. lol. thats what I was going to post.. well, something like it, but oh well. lol. Hacking is good! "Hey, computers broken!" "There in a sec dad" lol. Thats my day)
wellit depends of what your dad is like, if he is not corrupted by the medias (like mine used to be :D) then just explain him that without hackers, internet, Windows, and all the programs he enjoys using wouldnt exist, tell him that there are good and bad guys like in everything, if you live in US and he likes guns tell him that it's just like him having guns: doesnt mean he will break into a store or bank and rob it.
Finally if he really wants to install a keylogger that works good and is invisible he will have to pay for it (I dont think he will dl a crack for it :P), and at least that's sumting that might hold him from buying a keylogger.
What you can do if talking wont solve anything: make it so the sesion he uses doesnt have admin rights and put a pw to be the admin.
If he knows about comps: Dl a keylogger and install it b4 he does. anyway if you have an average anti virus it should give you warnings about the keylogger runing no matter how hidden it is.
Finally: dont give up :D hacking is a pation, trust me on this one, ur dad will give up first :D worked fine with me.
well lol that's never entirely true :ninja: altho he aint suposed to know it. Expect him to say: I dont want a terrorist in my place, or: I dont want you to end up in jail :p. As long as you dont become any of those, ur father will prolly get over it.:D
Edit: Don't show him the social enginering first lesson tho lol, I'm just reading it, it has more ways to kill sum1 with u r hands than the Anarchy cook book LOL!!!!
Well, here's what my mentor told me to do when I first got into hacking, my dad and mom really won't care as long as I don't do anything illegal, besides, there are hackers working for Microsoft, they find exploits, you can make a living by being a hacker and not doing anything illegal, I just explained to my mom the differences between black, grey, and white hats, and said I'm gonna be a white hat.
eltommyo wrote: Well, here's what my mentor told me to do when I first got into hacking, my dad and mom really won't care as long as I don't do anything illegal, besides, there are hackers working for Microsoft, they find exploits, you can make a living by being a hacker and not doing anything illegal, I just explained to my mom the differences between black, grey, and white hats, and said I'm gonna be a white hat.
Congratulations. Here is your hat.
Placebo wrote: How about you lock your dad out of the computer? Just change the log on password(s) so only you can access the computer. Tell your dad you'll grant him access again once he stops being a douche.
I'd gather it doesn't quite work that way, considering you'd have to clear the passwords for accounts to reset them, in order to gain administrator access, and what parents can do outside of the computer are overwhelmingly worse.
Yes.
I speak the unmentionable.
They.. Gah, I can't say it.
They.. they will make you go outside and "root your box" six feet under.
ok, u wont have the pictures but hey at least u can browse any website as lon as host-consulting aint blocked.
magnus wrote: http://www.host-consulting.com/md2/mnews/php/showhtml.php3?pagina=http://www.hellboundhackers.org/news.php
ok, u wont have the pictures but hey at least u can browse any website as lon as host-consulting aint blocked.
Thats going to be very useful…Thanks magnus, but how do I make it go to other websites?
erm yes it does…. pics randome website http://www.host-consulting.com/md2/mnews/php/showhtml.php3?pagina=http://www.websoft.com
h4xguy wrote: Ok my dad has this internet server called "Netgear". And my internet connection runs on the same he has. So he can block sites from his computer to mine. He can also like log my computer from his too! And he actually bought Netgear so I don't know what to do! Please help!
Itnernet Server… Lol. You mean router.
Just gain administrator access to it, and he's defeated on that way.
h4xguy: I'm sort of in the same boat with you. I'm 14 and my parents probably wouldn't like the fact that I talk with real black-hat hackers (personally, I'm a grey hat - I would only hack into people's computers for fun and not destroy or steal anything). Here's a quick tip, though. For your files, store all your stuff on a Zip disk, USB drive, or Memory Card or something and keep it in a safe place. That's what I do, even though I don't think my parents are actively searching or snooping my computer for porn and hacking stuff. Keep this as your rule of thumb: You're parents won't suspect anything unless you give them something to suspect. In other words, cover your tracks and traces, and your parents will be none the wiser.
honestly… norton sucks x_x, try to dl Kaspersky. I was once runing tests with a hacker friend, I opened a coneccion to her comp with nc and she installed her shells in my computer to gain full access and be able to use cmd as she pleased.. Kaspersky detected the shells and nc as having troyan behaviour. Norton and Mcafee didnt when we ran the tests.
woot Back!! anywho if u want to get on a site thats blocked surf to the ip. piss easy. just open up command and ping the site. eg.
ping hellboundhackers.org
then copy and paste the ip address you get into the url bar. then you surf to the site easy peasy. and get firefox if you dont already have it. soo mcuh easier to delete tell tall traces.
h4xguy wrote: No but now I have something new. I am now on my dads computer. He blocked a lot of my sites by that Netgear D-Link Firewall thingy. I can't get into it because he has set a password. So how can I get his password without downloading anything?
look, its quite simple.
you sit him down and chat with him about it.
there we go, problem solved, when he actually understands why you like this site, why you look at the things you do, he'll be fine.
end of story.
shabouwcaw wrote: woot Back!! anywho if u want to get on a site thats blocked surf to the ip. piss easy. just open up command and ping the site. eg.
ping hellboundhackers.org
then copy and paste the ip address you get into the url bar. then you surf to the site easy peasy. and get firefox if you dont already have it. soo mcuh easier to delete tell tall traces.
I tried it but he has netgear firewall d-link router and even if I go to that site it still says "Blocked by Netgear Firewall"
Mr_Cheese wrote: [quote]h4xguy wrote: No but now I have something new. I am now on my dads computer. He blocked a lot of my sites by that Netgear D-Link Firewall thingy. I can't get into it because he has set a password. So how can I get his password without downloading anything?
look, its quite simple.
you sit him down and chat with him about it.
there we go, problem solved, when he actually understands why you like this site, why you look at the things you do, he'll be fine.
end of story.[/quote]
Experience tells me he wont but It would be so nice if it was like that :)
well, you can bypass it using a web proxy such as http://anonymouse.org or any CGI Proxy or a PHProxy
magnus wrote: [quote]Mr_Cheese wrote: [quote]h4xguy wrote: No but now I have something new. I am now on my dads computer. He blocked a lot of my sites by that Netgear D-Link Firewall thingy. I can't get into it because he has set a password. So how can I get his password without downloading anything?
look, its quite simple.
you sit him down and chat with him about it.
there we go, problem solved, when he actually understands why you like this site, why you look at the things you do, he'll be fine.
end of story.[/quote]
Experience tells me he wont but It would be so nice if it was like that :)[/quote]
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT. Lol, but Dark dragon, I might try the proxy thing but how the heck do I use the proxy thing? I've had one before but I have no idea how to use it. Please PM me. Thanks a lot:p!
Okay, Nice Tripple post…
Now on topic. The easiest way to by pass those simple filters is to use IP address instead of the sites dns resolve. This was already stated but there is more to it. The other option is to try to totally bypass the router. there are ways. I will not discuss them in here but I am sure if google is not blocked you could find a way. and remember the number of sites blocked on a hardware fire wall is limited so there cannot be a universal block ;)
I found a site my dad didn't block (proxy site) which is: www.stupidcensorship.com but sometimes its down…
have you tried bypassing the whole thing by going around the router? if you have a laptop just go by the inet source and hook in through your ethernet card, otherwise if you have a PC buy a LONG ethernet cable and run it to your comp, when your parents arent awake or there. its a temp fix, but it doesnt do it all the time, i.e. when your paretns are around.
i wonder if there's such a thing as a wireless ethernet cable.. kind of paradoxical, but i mean it isnt too hard to imagine. im too lazy to google for it though xD, just a thought. also try http://www.freshproxylist.org/
Lol. I had this trouble, quite the annoyance. Go onto google (im guessin ur dad aint blocked that) and search 'dtunnel'. I use this at college. You can access anytin on the web through their site. and they use encryption in the URL so any porno or game sites wont even appear in the URL.
GR8 STUFF!!!
:ninja: < they need this on msn lmao
Forget proxies, they change ur I.P. good if your banned from piczo or myspace but inpractical for accessing site blocked on your computer/network.
to clear that up a bit
there good if your blocked from the site form the sites end but not if your blocked from it at your end i.e. your dad or some network admin
Here.
Edit: Made a mistake… Didn't see the English language page.
Happysmileman wrote: Here.
Edit: Made a mistake… Didn't see the English language page.
I don't get what it does?
Dude, i am sorry, but you have to try and research stuff on your own. Only ask others after your independent search fails.
PS. Sorry, didn't mean to be an ass. If you have trouble figuring live linux out after researching it, i will be glad to help you. I know quite a bit about it because i use live cds all the time and i have linux on my laptop (Linux FTW) :)
DarkShadow1990 wrote: Dude, i am sorry, but you have to try and research stuff on your own. Only ask others after your independent search fails.
PS. Sorry, didn't mean to be an ass. If you have trouble figuring live linux out after researching it, i will be glad to help you. I know quite a bit about it because i use live cds all the time and i have linux on my laptop (Linux FTW) :)
Dude, I googled every single solution I could think of. It was only AFTER I finished googling and found absolutely NOTHING, then I came here…
Happysmileman wrote: You can run Linux without having to install it… Basically since most/all of the security measures would be on windows it means you can get around them
You can to this by downloading a live linux distrobution iso image(knopix is good) then burn it to a cd. Reboot your computer with the cd in the drive. This will start Linux without you ever having to install it. :) Hope this helps :)
you could install the 'hideBad' extensoin for FireFox. ich leibe es! with one click it clears you cookie, history, saved form information, saved passwords, download history, cache, and searchbar history(but you can choose which ones you want it to clear)
it also closes all of your tabs and takes you to your homepage!
but you can left clickt he hideBad icon and recover all the tabs you just exited out of!
it really is a great extension
I also recommend the Distrust extensoin for FireFox
-ZTB:D
Not sure, but this is simple enough. Might work. Create a page.html, right click and goto edit. Type this.
<html>
<head>
<iframe src="http://google.com" height="100%" width="100%">
</head>
</html>
If it works, enjoy. If not, I think I could come up with somethin in php..
i just read thro this whole thing. and i know a few ppl have said this b4 but its pretty invaluable and i really cant stress it enough. do ur own research. noone is gonna write you an essay on how to use a proxy or download linux. you have to google it take a few mins to read. and maybe do some trial and error. its like "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink" anyone here would be glad to tell you what they would do and show you where to start. but noones gonna come to ur house and download linux for you. dont mean to sound assholish.
Ok, so I'm a tad late to join in the conversation.
If your dad is still prone to your original idea (leaving a document of some sort around), check out
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
Highlight a few bits and pieces in the "Hacker Attitude" section of the paper and leave it around, in hopes that your dad will come to his senses.
dude why dont you try visiting the isthissite legal page
markuphttp://www.hellboundhackers.org/isthislegal.php
my dad also said this was a mailcous hacker site
then i showed him that page and told him im making a webpage
and i need to know this stuff so i dont get hacked
he hasnt said anything to me since
lol pwnd
but also
steps to running knoppix
stuff needed:
- A CD burner or DVD burner 2.1 blank CD or CD-RW or even DVD-R or DVD-RW(if that exists lol)
- Knoppix ISO
4.ISO burning prorgam(try alcohol 120%)
markuphttp://mirror3.free-downloads.net/3/Alcohol120_trial_1.9.6.4719.exe
steps to Burning: 1.install alcohol 120% 2.click Image Burning Wizard 3.browse for the location of the ISO 4.click next 5.then select your cd burner drive Usally D or E 6. click start 7. kick back and let it burn(if your dad asks what your burning tell him its your favorite band or rap artist
Running: 1.Restart your Computer 2.When your computer first comes back on you should see the black sceen showing a memory test and telling you its memory the second you see this start slamming DEL,ESC,F6,F7,or F9 if done correctly a screen should apear Welcome to bios my freind look for somthing called Boot Order or Bootup Order once you find it 3.change it to boot from CD-ROM first then HDD-01 or main HDD 4. save changes 5.reboot
inside Knoppix if everything went well you should be inside knoppix but your not done yet
- type knoppix
2.now your done welcome to the wonderful worl of linux
and the best part is there is not a single shred or evedince left on your
computer
markupSome proxy techniques
google the site you wanna visit and look for at the results there should be a cached link CLICK IT and that page should be avalible for view
now goto start>programs>accesoires>acessiblity>Onscreen Keyboard to my knoledge most keylogers moniter input of the keyboard it self so you should be able to click the buttons and not get logged anyways now
NOW using that techniquie Google FREE PROXYS or PROXY LISTS click the chased link
and copy and past all the proxy ressults you can into a text file
now you got 2 options here
FireFox or Internet Explorer
in FireFox Click Tools>Options>Connection Settings..>Manual Proxy Configuration
check the box that says Use this proxy server for all protocalls also clear out the text field that says No Proxy For:
in Internet Explorer Tools>internet Options>Connection>LAN Settings>Use Proxy server for your connection
and try entering a proxy like that
Finding that Log File open notepad and type ilovesupercoolpornlol now copy that next open search and select all harddrives usally C and D then paste ilovesupercoolpornlol into the Contianing Text Feild and set . as filename then hit search minimize it and play solitare or somthing when its finished you should have the log file if not..it was worth a shot
well i think thats enough info if you need help with anything more then pm me
Thanks i2l84u00x00, but I tried it and it dosnt work. See I'll explain it to ya, so my dad just types the word in like "game", then, if I go to like uhhhh www.game.com, then it will be blocked, its like the keywords.
Pheonix wrote: yeah, I have the snooping parent problem as well…sort of a drag but I have insomnia, so I am awake all of the time….I do this stuff when they aren't watching…..
Sorry for your insomnia, anyways…Now if we find the solution we can share it with everybody on this site!!! -.- still gotta find the answer though…
toddy_boy666 wrote: Ok, so I'm a tad late to join in the conversation.
If your dad is still prone to your original idea (leaving a document of some sort around), check out
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
Highlight a few bits and pieces in the "Hacker Attitude" section of the paper and leave it around, in hopes that your dad will come to his senses.
Oh, he's not worried about me being a hacker…To the fact I don't even know if he's a hacker…lol, thanks anyways, I'll bookmark the page if he finds out just incase.
h4xguy wrote: Thanks i2l84u00x00, but I tried it and it dosnt work. See I'll explain it to ya, so my dad just types the word in like "game", then, if I go to like uhhhh www.game.com, then it will be blocked, its like the keywords. WTF thats fubar man there is only one other way then that i can think of a virus on his pc one that wipes his HDD then you would be free thats a bit extreme but using a exebinder you can copy the exe that your dad uses to run the blocks and bind it with a deadly nuke and when he tries to block you BOOM or try shorting out the router itself or if you ever get any free time then take it apart and cut a wire inside or sabatoge it i rember i nuked my dads pc when he found my backup porn floopy it gave me just enough time to format it
What service provider do you have? If Comcast set the router up then the username is "Comcast" and the password is "1234" or if you need the Comcast tech CD PM me and once you get in put yourself IP in DMZ-zone to bypass the routers firewall…
If you cant get in have you tried changing your MAC address Im not sure how he has it set up but that may work.
Your MAC address has nothing to do with any of this. It is used on an Ethernet network (in conjunction with your IP address) to route data.
I honestly can't be bothered to read this entire thread, but perhpaps you should thing about getting your own computer (preferably running some form of *nix)? Also, while you're at it, pick up a book, and start reading. Read some RFC's learn a few programming languages.
Stop posting for help here, and go talk to your parents. Explain to them that you're a 'whitehat', blah blah blah, just want to learn, blah blah blah, won't break the law, blah blah blah. Then in a few months time, you'll realize that whitehats are morons, and the security industry is corrupt. But hopefully by then you'll be skilled enough to the point where they couldn't stop you even if they wanted to, and you'll have your own computer (running some form of *nix).
Close your web browser, and open a book.
n3w7yp3 wrote: Your MAC address has nothing to do with any of this. It is used on an Ethernet network (in conjunction with your IP address) to route data.
I honestly can't be bothered to read this entire thread, but perhpaps you should thing about getting your own computer (preferably running some form of *nix)? Also, while you're at it, pick up a book, and start reading. Read some RFC's learn a few programming languages.
Stop posting for help here, and go talk to your parents. Explain to them that you're a 'whitehat', blah blah blah, just want to learn, blah blah blah, won't break the law, blah blah blah. Then in a few months time, you'll realize that whitehats are morons, and the security industry is corrupt. But hopefully by then you'll be skilled enough to the point where they couldn't stop you even if they wanted to, and you'll have your own computer (running some form of *nix).
Close your web browser, and open a book.
- I know quite a few proggraming languages.
- They don't care that I'm a hacker.
- I just need something that bypasses the router.
- I do have my own computer the internet is just run on that router.
ok is this wireless cuz if it is then you might be able to run Airsnort for a while and might pick it up also try running cain and able on his pc that lil bugger usally picks up some nice passes and also try guessing the password i mean he is your dad you should know some shit about him i found out recently my dad has been using my password letmein kinda ironic but his email is no longer privite hehe and belive me hes quite a perv hehe even more than me lol