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I have been doing some reseach on super computers and i have came across some intersting stuff and the topic that we need to shed some light on is the "Cray" super computer if u know what im talling about. in conjuction with the Cray super computer is the "ECHELON" project. THe "ECHELON" project is pretty much them seaching out emails and other devices ex cell phones(gps), They say that they are searching 4 keywords but do u belive them….??? What does the NSA do…??? do they try to protect us how far would they go to do this… invasion of privacy. If u have some words of wisdom to tell us or ne infomation or if u think i am incorrect plz do so the tell ur opinion. http://hilbert.math.uni-mannheim.de/~seiler/cray.jpg

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i think you guys are paranoid…

I mean, what can they do? its a bunch of computer geeks on computers all day. Theres really nothing they can do to you if youre not breaking the law. 0_0

I havent read that article, but i would assuem theyre tracking keywords for terrorists…just maybe. Are you one? lol. so there, you hvae nada to worry about.

but of course i didnt read the article so im probably wrong.


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Why not test this theory?

Write an e-mail that contains a whole bunch of possible "keywords". Also include something like "For more information, my friend, check out [link to IP logger]."

Check your logs later on and see if anyone visited that specific page. If so, you know the NSA does in fact search our e-mail for specific keywords.


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that is a great idea im going to have to test and i will share my resutls


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all the ECHELON program does is just mointor emails / IM conversations etc, for certain keywords.

if your IM conversation / email has a keyword, then they read your email tos ee what it is saying, if tis something they want to investigate they then monitor every one of your IM's / Emails. Its nothing to be worried about if you just send normal emails and dont plot terroist attacks over your MSN chats.

there was a plan a few years ago when it started that a massive massive chain letter would be sent / forwarded / copied etc and would contain every keyword it detects. the idea was to crash this program, but sadly that plan didnt work. ehcelon has been operational for several years now.

im not saying its justfied, i still think its a massive invasion of privacy. but i was just clearning up a few facts.


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If the NSA do that in America, are the SS (MI5) or SIS (MI6) doing the same sort of thing ?

And I was speaking to a careers perosn a while ago, and as a joke a friend of mine asked what sort of jobs there were for assasins :P

The carers person started talking about how he had known people who have sent applications to MI5 and go interviews, and then said that MI5 were looking for computer security specialists ;)

Did you know that if you applied for a job at MI5, youre only allowed to tell your immediate family and close friends ? Sound like an interesting job :P

  • AbSoRb

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I hate the fact that our conversations are being monitored… And they are. MD5 Library has been shutdown about 4 times now because certain 'Keywords' were detected. This is one of the main reasons why I'm looking into programming my own chat client/server


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what kind of keywords are we talking about here Jake?


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lol jake replies, then HBH gets taken down in 3minutes coz it contains the magic "keywords".


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3 minutes….:o

i thought they would act faster to stuff like that :D


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lol faster? it isnt the SAS that deals with things like this, its american intelligence agencies! i think your giving them a bit too much credit there.


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terrorist, plan, attack, al qaeda, bin laden, saddam, evil, muhahaha, rule, the, world, domination, muhahhaha, kill, murder, fabric, softener, hairdresser, perm, ooooo, flirt, bomb, green, biological, herbal, remedy, cookie, recipie……

^^ The sort of words you'd expect in a terrorist email….

waits for HBH to be shutdown


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you forgot… porno, masterbation, and i love you

:P


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we can just complie and crash this site wordlist….?!?!? (not here!)


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I got a hole list of these… They are called Spook words.


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I never even heard of this..


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damn those dudes… search some friends and go out :s

E911 is a highway overhere :) that'll be a whole bunch of work ^^ and what if your name is Jasmine or Stephanie or…? :)


ghost's Avatar
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YAY for Echelon. I know a hacker that uses Echelon as a nick. anyway you're paranoid… get over it.


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paranoid? im not paranoid abuot it, i know it exsists, its a fact.

it was publically announced when it was released. theres plenty of publically avaible information on it.


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Wow! I'm astowned. I mean, isn't that a felony or something? How far is it true? That is a massive conspiration… I think that something like that is unaceptable and serious. But you know, that's just me.


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lol, i was just looking through that list and noticed "Bubba the Love Sponge" :D

How could Bubba the Love Sponge have anything to do with terrorist keywords ??:P


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DaJoOB put in caps because of filter


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Setrop is that by chance a copy and paste without read, some words im not so sure about….:D


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i doubt they would shut us down for putting up that huge list. i mean the word hackers was in that list. how many times do we see hacker here on HBH? Its funny but i bet HellBound Hackers is on the list… and we dont even know about it :p


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just spotted this thread now. I did get invited for an interview at MI5 as a Network Engineer, but I wasnt a british citizen so they cancelled the interview. I was not aloud to tell anyone I was going for the interview.

As for absorbs questions as to whether SIS monitor aswell, the answer is yes. It is called GCHQ, or General Communications Headquarters. Its based in Bletchley Park, just down the road from where the Enigma code was cracked. They monitor Cellphone, email, pager, fax, IM, and telephone communique. Now that everyone is switching to VOIP, its even easier for them.

Ironically enough, and this may be a coincidence, but part of BT's core network is also in bletchley. Interesting huh?

Someone said that we are paranoid, but, just because we are paranoid, does not meant they are not out to get us.

Also you have to worry, just because the current administration looks only for terrorism, what stops a future administration from looking for evidence of homosexuality and banning it, or looking for evidence that you are not going to vote the right way, and getting rid of you. If you have no privacy, then you can't have any secrets. If you have no secrets, then you have no defense if the worst happens.


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It is a fact of life guys…the government is going to spy on us. they have been doing it for may many many years. Just live with it and do not do anything stupid!

it is that simple