"The Little Hybrid Web Worm that Could."

http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=128355&WT.svl=news1_2

What do you guys think of this, Could this be what we're looking at in a few months or is it just vaporware?

I really hope this isn't something coming soon. EVERY one uses internet, so this virus would essentially spread everywhere. This would be a reason to stop the internet, stop the free trade of information. This would just mean our web browsers become more bloated to stop these 'hybrid worms'.

We could always disable javascript though :)

lol, it wouldn't disable the Internet…

If you wanna disable the Internet you gotta use a backbone DDOS attack ;D

Dr4g0nsh0t wrote: lol, it wouldn't disable the Internet…

If you wanna disable the Internet you gotta use a backbone DDOS attack ;D

You don't know what you're talking about, the internet can never be disabled.

As for the worm, it sounds like it's all based on javascript. Noscript = no worm.

Does noscript block script access for Flash?

spyware wrote: Does noscript block script access for Flash?

yeah, apparently it won't even download the flash applications if they aren't trusted.

spyware wrote: Does noscript block script access for Flash?

Yup. No JS, no Flash, XSS warnings, etc. NoScript owns. :happy:

no script is the most annoyig addon i ever added on. every page i visited a bar opened at the bottom talking crap about allowing google analytics. i ended up uninstalling it.

Folk Theory wrote: no script is the most annoyig addon i ever added on. every page i visited a bar opened at the bottom talking crap about allowing google analytics. i ended up uninstalling it.

Well, I can only say: Who actually cares if Google Analytics run their scripts? Ignore the bar, block the JS from the rest of the site, and be happy that you're not letting JS run when you don't want it to. Sometimes, you have to deal with a little annoyance in order to browse safer.

its just not worth the annoyance.

that's sexy. i want to see the source for that bastard

this worm mutates and can learn new exploits. What happens if it comes self concious?? and takes over the internet?? what if it killed us all?? :o

but seriously it could really do some damage….

lesserlightsofheaven wrote:

You don't know what you're talking about, the internet can never be disabled.

As for the worm, it sounds like it's all based on javascript. Noscript = no worm.

Yes, it wouldn't disable the Internet, it would just make things a lot harder, since we wouldn't have domains, and would have to use IP addresses.

this worm mutates and can learn new exploits. What happens if it comes self concious?? and takes over the internet?? what if it killed us all??

but seriously it could really do some damage….

It COULD do some damage, but i doubt this will ever take off.. Hope not ^^

Dr4g0nsh0t wrote: It COULD do some damage, but i doubt this will ever take off.. Hope not ^^

if it does and does somehow become self concious and decides to kill us all…. infects the russian and us army servers and launches all nukes.

the source code would be worth loads for phishers and advertisers. think: a worm that can infect thousands so you just make it so that it has a small banner on everysite it infects with rental space for ads.

koolkeith12345 wrote:

if it does and does somehow become self concious and decides to kill us all…. infects the russian and us army servers and launches all nukes.

the source code would be worth loads for phishers and advertisers. think: a worm that can infect thousands so you just make it so that it has a small banner on everysite it infects with rental space for ads.

You watch too many movies, This could be useful for building botnets etc ;D

Dr4g0nsh0t wrote:

You watch too many movies, This could be useful for building botnets etc ;D

the 1st part was joking but the 2nd wasnt and i dont watch that many movies actually.

the only genuinely challenging part of making that would be reading in the secuna reports, the rest wouldnt be too hard. although itd be difficult to spread to the clientside in most cases, IE and FF block dangerous JS

the worm could make all our ases be belong to him. but really its just a worm that can read secuna. i doubt its JS are that advanced such that it could get past todays browsers and servers' antivirii.

Dr4g0nsh0t wrote: Yes, it wouldn't disable the Internet, it would just make things a lot harder, since we wouldn't have domains, and would have to use IP addresses.

Now I REALLY know you don't know what you're talking about.

The internet has NOTHING to do with domain names. Zero, zip. Domain names are merely an "enhancement" to make things easier. Take the server in my profile, it doesn't use a domain name, but since you can access it from your internet-connected computer, it is thus a part of the "internet".

The internet is just a big-fuckin'-interconnected-glob-of-networks. Nothing more. If you have two computers connected with a cable, you have an "internet", albeit, a very small one (technically an "intranet", assuming the "internet" still exists).

RTFM! man internets

don't forget the s at the end, otherwise your HD could be wiped.

lesserlightsofheaven wrote:

You don't know what you're talking about, the internet can never be disabled.

remember when robert morris sent out his worm? it put down 1/10 of the internet [even though at that time on tenth was about six thousand systems] so maybe not the whole internet but worms can crash a good amount :angry:

.::ZTB::.

ziggythebear wrote: remember when robert morris sent out his worm? it put down 1/10 of the internet [even though at that time on tenth was about six thousand systems] so maybe not the whole internet but worms can crash a good amount :angry:

.::ZTB::.

That was 1988, this is 20 years later.

Also, the idea that the internet can never be crashed has nothing to do with the integrity of the software on the computer, as morris exploited in the sendmail bug you mentioned. The internet depends on the networking model, which is oftentimes, a physical layer.

Want to destroy the internet? Physically destroy every single computer in the world, along with every single scrap of cabling.

TO distroy the internet as the average user stands all u have to do is knok out the DNS servers most ppl dont even understand the simple concept of a ip address.

The internet can be taken down. Lets be real. I agree that it would be extremley hard… way over my head. But Im sure it can be done. It is just a huge glob of networks… so really, if you can take down a network, you can take down the net. Plus, no power, no net. Remember New York?

Yeah, about 2000 networks(made that statstic up) are made a day, a backbone ddos attack, crashes the servers that look after domain names.

IE: http://www.hellboundhackers.org would become 87.106.143.53

Can't take down the internet, ever. Travel, see the world. The cables are everywhere. Not everything is directly connected, but everything is.

A butterfly could cause a war.

spyware wrote: Can't take down the internet, ever. Travel, see the world. The cables are everywhere. Not everything is directly connected, but everything is.

[argument] Lol, it can come down man. It has to be powered. There is no other option. Unless of course, they somehow made it all solar powered. The chances are slim.. but it isnt impossible. [/argument]